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Tanypteryx
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Message 16 of 44 (743415)
11-30-2014 9:37 PM
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11-30-2014 5:55 PM


western Canadian wind was called "Chinook?"
not just western Canadian. A warm snow melting wind in Oregon and probably all of the west is called a "chinook".
I remember several times growing up in Bend, Oregon when we experienced Chinooks.

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Message 17 of 44 (743417)
11-30-2014 10:04 PM
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11-30-2014 9:37 PM


Since Faith seems to no understand that a word can have many meanings, here is what you referred to. Maybe she will even read it.
quote:
Chinooks are generally called foehn winds by meteorologists and climatologists, and, regardless of name, can occur in most places on the leeward side of a nearby mountain range. They are called "Chinook winds" throughout most of western North America, particularly the Rocky Mountain region. Montana, in particular, has a significant amount of Chinook winds across much of the state during the winter months, but particularly coming off the Rocky Mountain Front in the northern and west-central areas of the state.
One such wind occurs in the Cook Inlet region in Alaska as air moves over the Chugach Mountains between Prince William Sound and Portage Glacier. Anchorage residents often believe the warm winds which melt snow and leave their streets slushy and muddy are a midwinter gift from Hawaii, following a common mistake that the warm winds come from the same place as the similar winds near the coasts in southern British Columbia, Washington, and Oregon.
Chinooks also occur in Colorado, especially near Denver, where winds blowing over the Rocky Mountain Front Range have raised winter temperatures from below freezing to around 50F (10C) in just a few hours. Chinook winds also occur in and around other cities in the Rocky Mountain states, including Billings, Salt Lake City and Albuquerque.
Chinook wind - Wikipedia

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Message 18 of 44 (743420)
11-30-2014 10:35 PM
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11-30-2014 10:04 PM


In Alberta Pincher Creek gets the best chinooks. In lived in Lethbridge for a few years where the chinooks could be very impressive. By the time they got to my home town of Medicine Hat though they had very little effect.
Still, the Hat was a great place to grow up. It has been many years since I have lived in Alberta but it will always feel like home.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Message 19 of 44 (743421)
11-30-2014 10:47 PM
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11-30-2014 10:04 PM


Lots to know about a Chinook wind I didn't know. The only time I ever heard the word was when my father referred to it as occurring in his part of Canada.

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Message 20 of 44 (743422)
11-30-2014 10:48 PM
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That's interesting because Pincher Creek was my father's home town. We used to visit there every summer.

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Message 21 of 44 (743425)
11-30-2014 11:05 PM
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I posted before reading the wiki site. That was impressive going from -2 degrees F to +72 degrees F in 1 hour in Pincher Creek.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
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Message 22 of 44 (743430)
12-01-2014 12:16 AM
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11-30-2014 11:05 PM


Yes, Chinooks are interesting, I had no idea how interesting. Only time I ever heard of a Chinook wind was from my father as I said, and I don't even recall his saying that they could raise the temperature appreciably, just that they were a special wind they got in Pincher Creek.

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Message 23 of 44 (743436)
12-01-2014 7:37 AM
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12-01-2014 12:16 AM


My mother says a Chinook is a warm wind from the west that melts the snow (yes, I live with my mother). She grew up on the Alberta prairie outside of Calgary in a farm house with no electricity or indoor plumbing. A horse-drawn cart took them to school. Now she cooks with a microwave and watches TiVo.
--Percy

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Message 24 of 44 (743476)
12-01-2014 2:58 PM
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12-01-2014 7:37 AM


My mother says a Chinook is a warm wind from the west that melts the snow (yes, I live with my mother). She grew up on the Alberta prairie outside of Calgary in a farm house with no electricity or indoor plumbing. A horse-drawn cart took them to school. Now she cooks with a microwave and watches TiVo.
Wow, so many of us have ties to the Canadian west here, even specifically Alberta. That's exactly how my father grew up and that's the way his family house still operated when we visited there every summer until the 60s. They did have the newfangled contraption of a phone but little else from modernity, and it was one of those wall mounted boxes that you cranked to get the operator, and everybody had a two or three digit phone number that you asked the operator to ring for you. Kerosene lights, wood stove for cooking, outhouse and chamber pots under the beds, you carried water in buckets from the well on the hill, they ate mostly what they raised and grew themselves, from chickens to cow's milk to vegetables, canned everything that could be canned to carry them over the winter, made their own butter, got wheat flour from the local mill and made their own bread. I loved it, but probably wouldn't if I were there for more than the few weeks we visited in the summer. My father and his whole generation died years ago but they were all very happy to see the times come when they had electricity and plumbing if not yet microwaves and TiVo.
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Message 25 of 44 (743561)
12-02-2014 11:48 AM
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12-01-2014 2:58 PM


Faith writes:
...you carried water in buckets from the well on the hill....
My mother used to send my brother and me, aged eight and six, to get a pail of water from an open well (much like a wishing well but with a little house built over it) a quarter-mile from the house. No pump; you just threw a bucket down and pulled it up with a rope. And of course we'd climb up on the cribbing and hang over the edge to look down at the water. Then we'd spill most of it on the way back to the house.

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Message 26 of 44 (743565)
12-02-2014 12:16 PM
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12-01-2014 2:58 PM


you carried water in buckets from the well on the hill
Why would you dig a well on a hill? That is a lot of extra work. That is right your whole view of the world is fairy tales.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 27 of 44 (743624)
12-02-2014 6:23 PM
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12-02-2014 12:16 PM


Why would you dig a well on a hill?
That was probably where the water witch told them to dig it.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 28 of 44 (743626)
12-02-2014 7:23 PM
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12-02-2014 11:48 AM


Hpw on earth could a household run on so little water?

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Message 29 of 44 (743627)
12-02-2014 7:27 PM
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12-02-2014 12:16 PM


I've often wondered why it was on the hill too, but the thought that just now comes to mind is that it was maybe to avoid contamination from the animals and/or the outhouse. I'll ask my brother if I think of it next time I talk to him. It was the hill closest to the house though, not a quarter mile away as Ringo's was.
And here's a thought: "Jack and Jill WENT UP THE HILL TO FETCH A PAIL OF WATER..." Must not be an unusual place to have a well.
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Message 30 of 44 (743630)
12-02-2014 7:44 PM
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12-02-2014 7:27 PM


Jack and jill is a fairy tale. Hill rhymes with Jill.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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