Yes I know more or less what the Ptolemaic system is, I just don't see how it fits into a discussion of the Bible's geocentric views which aren't a scientific system, just a description of what is observed of the sky from Earth. The Biblical descriptions pre-existed Ptolemy by millennia.
An image isn't a scientific system.
I have no problem with extrabibilical information that makes sense of things WITHOUT CONTRADICTING THE BIBLE, since the Bible doesn't try to explain everything. I don't see that the heliocentric system contradicts the Bible, it merely allows a new perspective on the same information that's expressed in the geocentric view. Evolution on the other hand directly contradicts the Bible.
Yes the image is geocentric, and it's "scientific" to the extent that it gives an account of what is actually seen, but it's not scientific in the sense of trying to explain what is seen, how the observed movements occur and so on. That remained for the heliocentric explanation.
I don't remember much about the discussion of the windows of heaven unfortunately but I would not have said anything like what I'm saying here because I believe the "windows" describes something real that existed before the Flood and no longer exists, though the term "windows" I regard as a poetic expression of the experience of the deluge from the sky as if from openings.
The image you posted, on the other hand, reflects an interpretation of the heavens as even we see them now from Earth.
I'm not up to looking at the links, is there anything there I really need to see?
I suspect that what is called geocentrism is mostly anthropocentrism anyway. The Bible IS very clear that humanity is God's special Creation, and as the geocentrists in the video at the beginning of the thread point out. this idea is supported by the barrenness of life on other planets. That's about the extent of my willingness to entertain geocentrism.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.