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Message 19 of 466 (748462)
01-26-2015 10:55 AM


I think this will introduce a plethora of S.O.P.s in regards to game balls.

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Message 107 of 466 (757881)
05-15-2015 9:31 AM
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05-14-2015 3:10 PM


Re: Brady, Patriots Guilty!
Stile writes:
If there's going to be firings, I think it should be a little closer to the top, not the guys on the bottom.
Hello Stile, sounds a bit like the Nuremberg defense to me.
"I was only following orders."

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Message 139 of 466 (758228)
05-22-2015 12:14 PM


lex parsimoniae
I think we can apply the Occam's Razor to this ball situation.
What do we know? We know the balls where under-inflated by NFL standards.
We know the balls where properly inflated prior to kickoff.
If the balls initial pressure was regulation and the post measurement showed deflation then the most likely answer is someone or something took the air out.
"If you eliminate the impossible, then whatever remains no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes.
So either the laws of physics didit or the Pats didit.
The answer with the fewer assumptions is that the air was let out by someone. (Just my opinion)
However I do not feel the punishment fits the crime since there is no smoking gun.

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Message 141 of 466 (758232)
05-22-2015 1:06 PM
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05-22-2015 12:42 PM


Re: lex parsimoniae
Your right of course we can't know.
Where the balls on the Colts side deflated? Would there even be a issue if both sides balls where all equally deflated?
We do not KNOW what the initial temperature of the balls where,
But if we accept the notion that the officials had no reason to lie and could be trusted, versus the Pat's gaining a advantage from deflated balls. The implication of cheating comes to mind verses the officials are trumping up some kind of witch hunt against the Pats.
It comes down to credibility and who one chooses to believe.
You are doing the right thing by not rushing to judgement and showing there can be other explanations. But the simplest explanation is they cheated do you agree?

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Message 152 of 466 (758564)
05-28-2015 12:29 PM
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05-28-2015 10:35 AM


Re: Brady, Patriots Guilty!
Stile writes:
That's exactly why the uppers should be fired and not the ones following orders.
Following unlawful orders does not exonerate one from unlawfulness.
Stile writes:
We're not talking about basic human rights where anyone should know better.
We're talking about air pressure in a ball for a past time.
This is true.

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