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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
NoNukes writes:
But the preponderance of the evidence is on the side of saying that the Patriots tampered with the ball. And a preponderance of the evidence is all that's required to punish Brady. Actually the preponderance of evidence suggests that Goodell is PISSED OFF that the bigger markets (NY, LA, CHI) aren't getting into the Stupor Bowl often enough to make the NFL richer, like he was hired to do. He hates that the smaller market of Patriots Nation keeps getting in the way of revenues. He will do anything to find fault. Why does a guy who beats up his wife in an elevator and drag her out unconscious only get 2 games? WTF? Hello? 55 cases and counting of abuse. But, no - Brady's little pissy-assed inflation descrepancies are FAR WORSE. Shame. Edited by xongsmith, : EmPHASis. Edited by xongsmith, : more Edited by xongsmith, : more- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Percy notes
NFL Nation's Kevin Seifert today reports the NFL has "produced a detailed process for measuring pregame football inflation, fortified its chain of custody for balls during warm-ups and arranged for random halftime and postgame testing." I wonder if this will also impact the kicking units. Kickers like to overinflate. Over the decades, despite moving the kickoff back to the 35, kickers have still been easily kicking beyond the end zone. Also long field goals are seemingly made more often.... They probably wont be too happy about this.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Percy asks
do lawyers perhaps always advise clients with significant net worths to destroy their old cell phones? Kidnapping Tom & Gisele's children would be a major kidnap!!- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
From Tom Brady:
I am very disappointed by the NFL’s decision to uphold the 4 game suspension against me. I did nothing wrong, and no one in the Patriots organization did either.
Despite submitting to hours of testimony over the past 6 months, it is disappointing that the Commissioner upheld my suspension based upon a standard that it was probable that I was generally aware of misconduct. The fact is that neither I, nor any equipment person, did anything of which we have been accused. He dismissed my hours of testimony and it is disappointing that he found it unreliable. I also disagree with yesterdays narrative surrounding my cellphone. I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances. As a member of a union, I was under no obligation to set a new precedent going forward, nor was I made aware at any time during Mr. Wells investigation, that failing to subject my cell phone to investigation would result in ANY discipline. Most importantly, I have never written, texted, emailed to anybody at anytime, anything related to football air pressure before this issue was raised at the AFC Championship game in January. To suggest that I destroyed a phone to avoid giving the NFL information it requested is completely wrong. To try and reconcile the record and fully cooperate with the investigation after I was disciplined in May, we turned over detailed pages of cell phone records and all of the emails that Mr. Wells requested. We even contacted the phone company to see if there was any possible way we could retrieve any/all of the actual text messages from my old phone. In short, we exhausted every possibility to give the NFL everything we could and offered to go thru the identity for every text and phone call during the relevant time. Regardless, the NFL knows that Mr. Wells already had ALL relevant communications with Patriots personnel that either Mr. Wells saw or that I was questioned about in my appeal hearing. There is no smoking gun and this controversy is manufactured to distract from the fact they have zero evidence of wrongdoing. I authorized the NFLPA to make a settlement offer to the NFL so that we could avoid going to court and put this inconsequential issue behind us as we move forward into this season. The discipline was upheld without any counter offer. I respect the Commissioners authority, but he also has to respect the CBA and my rights as a private citizen. I will not allow my unfair discipline to become a precedent for other NFL players without a fight. Lastly, I am overwhelmed and humbled by the support of family, friends and our fans who have supported me since the false accusations were made after the AFC Championship game. I look forward to the opportunity to resume playing with my teammates and winning more games for the New England Patriots.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Let's say for example that some witness testified that he saw a QB let air out of footballs. Would you say that a deduction is required to interpret that evidence or an inference? Let's say instead that one of the equipment managers texted a note to that same QB thanking him for the really nice payola for deflating the footballs. Would a deduction or an inference be required to interpret the evidence? but none of this has been established either way. you are taking this up to the hypothetical non-world of what we have here down on the real earth. Goodell obviously wanted to punish Brady because he was beleaguered by others to "get tough". Goodell is a piece of shit and should immediately resign and vacate all of his stupid decisions.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
glad you agree with me & Percy.
let's see what strangeness happens in the next thing on this.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
NoNukes writes:
On the other hand, it is possible to have circumstantial evidence that directly links the defendant to the murder. Fingerprints, witnesses seeing the defendant running away from the scene after some load bang bangs, etc are all indirect evidence. I can hear the late Rick Danko now: "Ten years ago on a cold dark nightThere was someone killed 'neath the Town Hall light There were few at the scene but they all did agree That the man who ran looked a lot like me...." Note: in the Johnny Cash version, Johnny uses the original "slayer" instead of Danko's "man" Edited by xongsmith, : indirect deflation- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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Again, the Brady family has a lot to lose. Think the Charles Lindbergh kidnapping. How much ransom could a kidnapper ask for? Want to know when the kids are getting picked up from school? Where they are on a regular basis?
- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Well, now I wonder about Mile-High Stadium....
What should be the right course of action? Baseball already gives creedence to the notion that Coors Field aids homers. Hmm - should the legal inflation be adjusted downwards for the Denver game??? Edited by xongsmith, : be- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Blue Jay weighs in (an excerpt):
A sport that has a strong following and a rather long history, like American football, is bound to accumulate regulations over the years, but you have to wonder whether the regulations and concomitant controversies will eventually become so stifling that the game loses its appeal. There is a certain part of me that fervently hopes so....- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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Percy ends his post with:
Brady's destruction of his cell phone looks more and more like justifiable paranoia now that we can see the lengths to which the NFL will go in pursuit of their own internal power agendas. No one is paranoid! They just have a heightened sense of awareness.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
But isn't it true that they already have all the phone messages they need from the other guys, who did not destroy their phones? The locker room attendants?
- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
NoNukes writes:
But text messages are easily deleted. A phone might contain evidence of those deletions. The best suggestion of good faith is Brady's claim that he tried to have the phone company produce the messages, but if there was such an attempt, it failed. THE POINT BEING THAT THERE WAS NOTHING ON THEIR PHONES and they weren't deleted. A calls B, both have a record. A deletes his, B still has it. When they look at B, there is nothing incriminating there.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Percy speculates:
The NFL suspended Brady for four games on trumped up charges. When those charges became dubious they added a charge of destruction of his cellphone, something Brady likely wouldn't have done had the NFL not suspended him for four games on trumped up charges. Not so sure he wouldn't destroy the phone. As you, yourself wrote, the lack of security combined with the risk to his family & children definitely makes it the prudent thing to do.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
In many a dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this That our hero Tom Brady Was betrayed by a hiss But I can't think for you The courts have to explain Why the NFL Commissioner Hates the Patriot's Game - xongsmith, 5.7d
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