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Message 331 of 1639 (770606)
10-09-2015 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 329 by Dr Adequate
10-08-2015 10:34 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Is Apparently Ambivalent About
oops. Someone already consumed the straight line...
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Message 332 of 1639 (770607)
10-09-2015 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 330 by Omnivorous
10-08-2015 11:30 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Is Apparently Ambivalent About
Now you see how fiendishly diabolical the War on Christians has become.
The only reasonable thing to do was to start producing rainbow-bags again so that the pious could direct their hate into something tangible.
Then again - could it be more convenient that the fundies had a look at own-brand product portfolio of the largest supermarket chain in Finland. Although in Finnish, hating them should not be that hard...
http://www.rainbow.fi/rainbow-tuotteet/selaa-tuotteita/
P.S. Im pretty sure that they have even gayhomosexuals at work there...
P.P.S. Theyve even indoctrinated pets into their diabolical agenda and I admit that especially the cat litter is brilliant.

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Message 333 of 1639 (770790)
10-14-2015 5:10 AM


Michelle points the way to new climate science
I know Michelle Bachmann isn't running in the GOP primary, but crazy is, and Ms. Bachman runs crazy.
From Salon:
quote:
Where there is horrifically bad weather in America, there will always be some kook proclaiming it is God’s wrath for America’s sinful ways. Same-sex marriage, blah blah, abortion, yah de yah de yah.
This week the storm in question was the flooding in South Carolina, and the kook in question was Michelle Bachmann. Turns out that the severe flooding in South Carolina and parts of North Carolina yep, God’s wrath, people. What’s God pissed off about now? U.S. policy on Israel. US turns back on Israel, disasters following, Bachmann tweeted. She helpfully included dramatic flood pictures from South Carolina, so her followers would know which biblical flood she was referring to.
The thing is, all we have are individual data points: same-sex sodomy sinks New Orleans, failing to adore Israel above all other nations including our own swamps South Carolina...apparently, something sordid happened north of Minneapolis, and so Michelle was inflicted upon them along with skeeters and snow.
God's responses aren't ours to understand, but we can map 'em; once we map 'em, we have the power supreme*:
Okay, West Virginia, stop blowing up mountaintops, or we'll lust for another man's wife: tornados will suck up every trailer park in your state.
Watch out, New Jersey--turn out one more fat grasping thug for national office, and we'll celebrate greed. Nor'easters will choke your beaches and harbors with medical waste.
quote:
How exactly the U.S. is turning its back on Israel is not explained. Of course, this is not the first time Bachmann has pointed out that President Obama’s foreign policy is hastening the End Times. They are nigh, people! Time to take that crash course in ark building.
The ark comment is just silly, though. Consider Texas, where we'll need to bring out the big guns--stop tailgating at executions, or we'll worship a golden calf. There goes your water, Slim: it's the fire this time!
But the takeaway is that President Obama already has the power to single-handedly hasten the End Times. A few more Nigerian Muslim remarks from Trump, and Obama steals the White House silver--Atlantic City is toast.
This is an exciting time to do science. Once I have a data respository secured in an undisclosed location, I expect you all to contribute.
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*No actual harm wished to anyone in the making of this post.
Edited by Omnivorous, : That's two els, two ems.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 334 of 1639 (770898)
10-15-2015 12:12 PM


Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Know

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Message 335 of 1639 (770900)
10-15-2015 12:16 PM
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10-15-2015 12:12 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Know
Good. Now we don't have to crush it for you.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 336 of 1639 (770905)
10-15-2015 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by Dr Adequate
10-15-2015 12:12 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Know
Am I correct in thinking that "political correctness" is trying to be polite so people won't think you are an asshole?
I mean, that would make sense, because Mike Huckabee a fucked up, total, absolute, in caps, ASSHOLE.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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NoNukes
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Message 337 of 1639 (771029)
10-17-2015 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by Tanypteryx
10-15-2015 12:45 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Know
Am I correct in thinking that "political correctness" is trying to be polite so people won't think you are an asshole?
It's supposed to refer to attempts to be polite that obscure the truth. But instead the term is used to deflect legitimate accusations of racism, homophobia, and xenophobia primarily by people on the right.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Message 338 of 1639 (771030)
10-17-2015 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by Tanypteryx
10-15-2015 12:45 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Know
Tanypteryx writes:
Am I correct in thinking that "political correctness" is trying to be polite so people won't think you are an asshole?
It's so people won't find out you're an asshole. But assholes usually reveal themselves anyway (there's a pleasant picture) by whining about political correctness.

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Message 339 of 1639 (771340)
10-24-2015 5:17 PM


In this, the new awesome primary thread, I'm wondering what the general consensus would be about which Democrat candidate would be most beneficial, most endorsed, by the scientific community.
Now that Biden has decided not to run, there's not much question it will be between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Which of the two would be best for the scientific community's goals?

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Message 340 of 1639 (771341)
10-24-2015 6:29 PM
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10-24-2015 5:17 PM


Which of the two would be best for the scientific community's goals?
Doesn't matter. The president can bully pulpit a scientific agenda all she wants but the action is in the congress. With the congressional majority party being republican science, from space exploration, stem cells, health and safety through vaccines and global warming, will all be given short shrift. And with the congressional majority party fragmented the term "do nothing congress" will take on new meaning in all aspects of legislative initiative not just science.
Until the republicans are run off the hill science and health care and budget and tax reform, and, and ... are dead issues.

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Message 341 of 1639 (771342)
10-24-2015 6:51 PM
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10-24-2015 6:29 PM


Which of the two would be best for the scientific community's goals?
Doesn't matter. The president can bully pulpit a scientific agenda all she wants but the action is in the congress. With the congressional majority party being republican science, from space exploration, stem cells, health and safety through vaccines and global warming, will all be given short shrift. And with the congressional majority party fragmented the term "do nothing congress" will take on new meaning in all aspects of legislative initiative not just science.
Until the republicans are run off the hill science and health care and budget and tax reform, and, and ... are dead issues.
The really sad thing is that the country that was the brightest chance for mankind and the whole planet blew out its own flame.
The U.S. is rapidly defining a new category of society below "third world country." A "fourth world country" is one that approached levels of science, technology, and societal freedoms that could have ended poverty, ignorance, bigotry and warfare, but instead turned and embraced poverty, ignorance, bigotry and warfare.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 342 of 1639 (771346)
10-24-2015 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 341 by Tanypteryx
10-24-2015 6:51 PM


Sad to see the exact wrong reason given for the destruction of America. I certainly agree the nation is in a pitiful condition and headed for worse, but I trace it to the concerted attacks on the Christian influences in this country going back at least half a century but farther back than that really.
It was our Christian heritage that brought us to the status of a world power AND brought our scientific superiority too, brought us great blessings in every department of life. You think that is bringing us down? But it hardly even exists any more thanks to liberal and atheist attacks on it, in the name of a twisted idea of "equality" and "freedom" and "reason" and whatnot. All the stuff we hear from you guys at EvC every day.
Life is lived by the majority now as if God's Laws don't count, and officially He's been kicked out of public life more and more. People are called bigots who want us to live by His Laws. Removing the Ten Commandments from public display, wow. That ought to tell God what we think of Him. Poverty and ignorance are bound to be the result because we have come under God's judgments and they don't stop until they've destroyed a nation that lives against His laws. Economic collapse, foreigners taking over, those are just two of the curses a nation comes under according to Deuteronomy 9 and Leviticus 26. It's coming, not here yet in full force.
the country that was the brightest chance for mankind and the whole planet blew out its own flame.
Yes we were that brightest chance while we still acknowledged God. The anti-God forces have won and blown out the flame.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 343 of 1639 (771350)
10-24-2015 9:49 PM
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10-24-2015 8:49 PM


Faith writes:
People are called bigots who want us to live by His Laws.
People are called bigots who want to force others to live by religious beliefs they do not share.
If there are Laws of God, She wrote them large in the universe to beckon and free our minds, not in the cramped minds of men to rule over others.
But we don't need a supernatural explanation for the rise and fall of U.S. science. Intellectual freedom and generous funding created it; ideological shackles and fiscal starvation are destroying it.
Science is in decline in the U.S. because conservative lawmakers, the action figures of the religious right, fear discoveries that, matter-of-factly, one by one, remove the need for supernatural explanations. They refuse to fund the basic science that made our labs preeminent. Scientists could once follow where the data led; now conservatives want first to make sure the hypothesis is religiously correct.
Unless it goes boom. Or makes them richer faster, or both. That they like.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Message 344 of 1639 (771351)
10-24-2015 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 343 by Omnivorous
10-24-2015 9:49 PM


So goes the Big Sad Mistake.

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Message 345 of 1639 (771355)
10-25-2015 12:11 AM
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10-24-2015 10:03 PM


I genuinely appreciate your concern, although I think you're as wrong as wrong can be.
I would enthusiastically defend your right to your beliefs and way of life, were they actually under attack; I'll fight the imposition of them just as vigorously.
Your right to your doctrine ends at the borders of my liberty.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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