Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread

Do you remember the title and/or author of this book?

I mentioned earlier that I'd read the book but couldn't find my copy of it so ordered it from Amazon. The title is Philistine: The Great Deception by Ramon Bennett.It's primarily about the Israel-Palestinian situation but in the process he quotes a number of Muslim leaders about strategies for world domination. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You're focusing on a very narrow section of time. During World War Two, for example, the French government participated enthusiastically in rounding up the Jews and shipping them off for extermination.

Of course I'm focusing on a narrow section of time. That's the subject here: why the Jews are leaving in such great numbers over the last few years. They say they have been doing fine in France until recent attacks on synagogues, Jewish businesses etc., by Muslims. That's what this is all about, it's all I've been talking about for days now.

And I'm saying that the Muslims may have learned their anti-Semitism from the French - who have been virulently anti-Semitic for centuries - and not from their religion. You have not established that Islam causes anti-Semitism.

Oh is that what you're saying? I would never have guessed. I've been reporting what I've been reading for quite some time now, about Muslim attacks on the Jews. If there's any French involvement it must be very small because it hasn't figured in descriptions of why the Jews are leaving France in the many news sources I've been reading, most of them from Messianic (Christian) Jewish sources who are very alert to the situation of Jews in the world. They consider themselves Jewish whether others do or not. They report on the status of Israel and the status of Jews throughout the world.They haven't made any kind of issue out of the usual French anti-Semitism. This doesn't mean that doesn't still exist, all it means is that for whatever reason it's not felt to be the reason Jews have been leaving France in the last few years, or to whatever extent it might be it's completely overshadowed by the Muslim factor. You are reaching wildly for anything to keep the blame off the Muslims like everybody else here, which makes no sense considering that Islam is powerfully anti-Jewish on its own.Islam, you really should be aware and it's amazing if you aren't, Islam the religion, the ideology, teaches Muslims to hate the Jews. Arab maps of the Middle East, particularly Palestinian maps, show the region utterly free of the state of Israel. It's just not there. The rhetoric of Muslim leaders for decades now has been that Israel must go, just be wiped off the earth, "pushed into the sea," no more Israel. As I quoted a few posts back, the Hadith, which is one of their holy books which is considered authoritative alongside the Koran, says to kill Jews.When this book that I've ordered arrives (which now I see by the tracking information may actually arrive today) I'm hoping to find quotes by the Muslim leaders, heads of state etc., who have aggressively declared the Islamic objective of subjugating the entire world to Allah, by many different methods, one being the settling of nonMuslim nations in order to build up their populations to the point that they have political leverage or even enough power to use violence.This desire to avoid finding fault with Islam is leftist political correctness and it's really quite stunningly displayed here at EvC. It makes no sense, it's just a dogma that is espoused and pushed by most of you because, because why? Because you've been brainwashed? Well, that's my theory of course, but what's the ultimate motive? What does it serve to contradict reality so aggressively? The effort put in to contradicting every little thing I say about the nature of Islam is truly astonishing. Or about the left itself, or about Political Correctness. Whatever the source of the propaganda you are following it is quite viciously aggressive. The title Dr. A put up briefly on this thread that was nothing but a list of PC accusations against me personally, was as hateful as if he'd stabbed me in the heart; same with AZ Paul's OP on the other thread he posted to take the place of this one because unfortunately this one has been taken over by these other topics, (and I do not take the blame for that: I pointed out we were off topic WAY back there but my opponents considered it on topic so unfortunately the specifics about the election primaries have been buried under these related but secondary issues). AZP's attack on his new thread about the primaries is aimed at me too of course, in incredibly vicious language.What is with this? It's truly totalitarianism -- only one opinion is allowed. I haven't done anything on this thread except try to present the truth as I know it, but somebody would like to censor it all and shut me up completely, ME, a complete nobody who just happens to be the only one at EvC with my point of view. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Still looking for a source to back this up. You keep saying this but have provided nothing, not even a quote from a Jew that is leaving. How about one quote and an original source?

If I run across such a quote I will supply it. Still seems to me that such a great number of reports on the subject count as evidence and to deny it is just some weird kind of weirdness.You can find articles claiming it's not predominantly about Muslim anti-Semitism, even specifically denying it, against all the other reports that say that it is, but that's the only cause that could explain such a big spike in Jewish emigration from France. No other cause for that spike is offered even if many reasons are given -- they are reasons that would apply at any time, and perhaps those reasons describe some emigrants, but they can't explain the great increase in emigrations, which parallels the recent spate of Muslim attacks.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

But you have provided no reports that have actual sources. Anyone can claim anything, backing up the claim with evidence is the tricky part.

But why on earth would anybody make up such a thing? You sound batty when you say such a thing. There is no reason why Jewish sources would prefer it be Muslim anti-Semitism or French anti-Semitism for pete's sake. The point is that there's been an INCREASE in Jewish emigration, and it happens to parallel the INCREASE in Muslim attacks. No increase in ethnic French anti-Semitic attacks has been reported has it? Nor any other reason for a sudden increase in emigrations either, an increase that has been growing over the last three or four years.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Will you trust a report by the UK's Telegraph more than my Messianic sources? That page gives a graph showing the spike in emigrations from 2013. Two incidents of terrorism by Muslims are mentioned as precipitating emigration.And from that page I followed a link to a report about a Jewish reporter wearing a skullcap who went walking in Paris to see what reactions he'd get and the reactions were a lot of verbal abuse especially in Muslim areas.And here's another page on the subject, which also mentions the influence of historical French anti-Semitism, including the Le Pen element, but makes the statement nevertheless that Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You may not have seen this paragraph that I added to Message 1418 after you had responded to it:

So you have no evidence.Just as I thought.

Just want to add a point I don't think I answered sufficiently in Message 1416: I believe I did establish quite well that "Islam causes anti-Semitism" but didn't directly respond to your suggestion that they may have learned their anti-Semitism from the French. And the answer is pretty simple: 1) They have enough inspiration from Islam itself and 2) there would have to be some active French anti-Semitic attacks to draw them into it and that simply has not been the case. The attacks have been almost all Islam-generated.

So you prefer to believe a fantasy.Just as I thought.