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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
New Cat's Eye
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Message 406 of 1310 (753349)
03-19-2015 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 405 by ScottRP
03-19-2015 11:58 AM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I'm not being a charlatan.
You can do that by explaining the criteria you use to determine that the photo is what you say it is.
I have seen the Spirit of God. I can identify Him. And I am showing you a picture of Him. It is that simple.
Simply claiming your special powers and expecting us to just believe you is exactly how a charlatan would behave.

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 407 of 1310 (753350)
03-19-2015 12:02 PM
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03-19-2015 11:48 AM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Wrong. As I have said before, the flash from the camera lights up the Spirit at the same time the photo is taken. Thus the photo can be taken. So can photos be taken of a ghosts.

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 408 of 1310 (753352)
03-19-2015 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 406 by New Cat's Eye
03-19-2015 12:01 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I do not claim "special powers".

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 409 of 1310 (753356)
03-19-2015 12:10 PM
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03-19-2015 12:04 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I do not claim "special powers".
No, you did not use those words. But you are saying that you can do something that we cannot.
That is a power that is special.
And then you won't even explain how you do it.
We should just believe you.
Yeah right.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 410 of 1310 (753357)
03-19-2015 12:11 PM
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03-19-2015 12:02 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
As I have said before, the flash from the camera lights up the Spirit at the same time the photo is taken.
The same thing happens with dust. Same round shape and everything.
How do you know that this is a spirit and not dust?

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ringo
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Message 411 of 1310 (753363)
03-19-2015 12:39 PM
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03-19-2015 12:02 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
ScottRP writes:
As I have said before, the flash from the camera lights up the Spirit at the same time the photo is taken.
If the spirit world is invisible, it's invisible. A camera flash isn't going to light it up. Anything that is lit up is going to be part of the visible world, which is visible to everybody.
So, since we have a perfectly good visible-world explanation for the "orbs" - i.e. dust - why do we need a woo-woo "invisible world" explanation? Why not make up a woo-woo explanation for France?

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frako
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Message 412 of 1310 (753395)
03-19-2015 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 407 by ScottRP
03-19-2015 12:02 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Wrong. As I have said before, the flash from the camera lights up the Spirit at the same time the photo is taken. Thus the photo can be taken. So can photos be taken of a ghosts.
This is a picture of an invisible untouchable dragon, the reason you can see it now is that dragons are quantum locked, the moment their position can be determined they turn to copper never being able to move again, after that its traditional in my country to place them as guards on bridges and the like. thats why they prefer to stay invisible and untouchable. U sure you don't want to bid on my dragon?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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ScottRP
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Message 413 of 1310 (753519)
03-20-2015 12:12 PM
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03-19-2015 12:39 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Your intellect fails you.

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ringo
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Message 414 of 1310 (753536)
03-20-2015 1:12 PM
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03-20-2015 12:12 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
ScottRP writes:
Your intellect fails you.
I've shown that your logic doesn't work. You claim that everybody can see the invisible. Maybe you should look for the beam in your own intellect before you point out the speck in somebody else's.

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ScottRP
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Message 415 of 1310 (753753)
03-21-2015 9:26 PM


I revised the opening post.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 416 of 1310 (753756)
03-21-2015 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 415 by ScottRP
03-21-2015 9:26 PM


I revised the opening post.
That's poor form. After so many replies to the thread from which is spawned, you should have left it intact in its entirety, despite its stupidity, and just posted a General Reply instead. Now all the stuff we quoted from the Opening Post isn't there anymore.
Anyways, here's the update:
To understand the chariots of God we must consult scripture. I will be using scripture from the Holy Bible.
2 Corinthians 4:18. while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Artist rendition of Ezekiel's Vision of God (based on scripture).
What you are looking at above appearing before Ezekiel, a beloved prophet of the Holy Bible, is Father God on His throne, Seraphim (living creatures), and what Ezekiel describes as "a wheel in the middle of a wheel" - this I believe to be a description of a great living chariot of God with rims, "full of eyes." This would have been a magnificent vision.
Excerpt from, "Ezekiel's Vision of God" -
Ezekiel 1:15-21. Now as I look at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was on the earth beside each living creature with it's four faces. The appearance of the wheels and their workings was like the color of beryl, and all four had the same likeness. The appearance of their workings was, as it were, a wheel in the middle of a wheel. When they moved, they went toward any one of four directions; they did not turn aside when they went. As for the rims, they were so high they were awesome, and their rims were full of eyes, all around the four of them. When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, because there the spirit went, and the wheels were lifted together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When those went, these went, when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up together with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
Below is a photograph of a spirit in one of the many small chariots of God.
Ezekiel 1:21. "for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels."
..................."for the spirit of the living creature is in the orb."
Ezekiel 1:19. "and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up."
..................."and when the living creature was lifted up from the earth, the orb was lifted up."
I believe that Ezekiel's wheels are the Holy Spirit Himself as a great living chariot of God. And the lesser, many chariots of God (see photograph) to be the living work of the Holy Spirit.
Psalm 68:17. The chariots of God are twenty thousands, Even thousands of thousands. The Lord is among them as in Sinai, in the Holy Place.
And wow, that was truly mesmerizing. Thank you for sharing your beliefs with us.
I'm just shocked. I'm not even sure that I can believe that you believe that stuff.
Assuming that you do, well... whew! I'm at a loss for words!

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ScottRP
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Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 417 of 1310 (753763)
03-21-2015 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 416 by New Cat's Eye
03-21-2015 9:42 PM


To learn some of the ways that this world misunderstands the Holy Spirit and some of His works like living chariots of God, all you need to do, is an internet search of spirit orbs and angel orbs.

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jar
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Message 418 of 1310 (753764)
03-21-2015 10:59 PM
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03-21-2015 10:26 PM


and trolls and leprechauns
To learn some of the ways that this world misunderstands the Holy Spirit and some of His works like living chariots of God, all you need to do, is an internet search of spirit orbs and angel orbs.
And search for Bigfoot and Trolls that live under bridges and the Little People as I pointed out to you back in Message 182 except there are much better pictures taken of Trolls and Bigfoot and the Little People.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
Joined: 02-26-2015


Message 419 of 1310 (753788)
03-22-2015 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 418 by jar
03-21-2015 10:59 PM


Re: and trolls and leprechauns
You do not even know whether what I have shown you is true or not, yet you speak as if you know. Why don't you just admit that you do not know. That you believe that it is dust. And stop your lying.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 420 of 1310 (753789)
03-22-2015 12:24 PM
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03-22-2015 11:35 AM


Re: and trolls and leprechauns
You do not even know whether what I have shown you is true or not, yet you speak as if you know. Why don't you just admit that you do not know. That you believe that it is dust. And stop your lying.
You have never presented any evidence anything you have shown is what you claim it is.
Until you do that you still have nothing but pictures of dust.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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