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Author Topic:   Who better serves the public: Democrats or Republicans?
ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 16 of 18 (751463)
03-03-2015 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Jon
03-03-2015 11:53 AM


Jon writes:
Hope you're getting a good workout moving those goalposts around.
Nothing has moved. I just painted black-and-yellow stripes on them so you could see them. Do you Yanks want a swoosh to show you where the puck is too?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 17 of 18 (751467)
03-03-2015 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by ringo
03-03-2015 10:49 AM


I objected to government "control" of the economy, not government "intervention" in the economy. Of course a butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon rain forest has an influence on the economy. I'm talking about deliberately trying to influence the economy.
Well, I refer you again to my analogy of the blindfolded driver. It's not better because they're not deliberately trying. By action and by inaction, they are controlling the economy. With their feet on the pedals and their hands on the steering wheel, they are doing so whether they like it or not. Therefore, they should admit that they are, and try to do it well.
Now, it is true that after all their thinking on this subject, they might conclude that the best thing is to "feed the hungry and heal the sick", and do nothing else. But that is in itself a decision about how to control the economy, just as someone (not blindfolded) who holds the steering wheel steady is making a decision about how to control the course of the car as much as someone who turns it left or right.
But they cannot be absolved of their responsibility. To the extent that the government can control the economy, they are in control of the economy. The question as to how they should use this power is moral and empirical, but they have it.

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ringo
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Message 18 of 18 (751474)
03-03-2015 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Dr Adequate
03-03-2015 12:19 PM


Dr Adequate writes:
But they cannot be absolved of their responsibility.
Didn't say they could or should.
What I objected to was the implication that the government should try to steer the economy in a specific direction. What I advocate is that the government should do what needs doing with regard to the welfare of the people and without regard to the effects on the economy.

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