|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
EvC Forum active members: 63 (9162 total) |
| |
popoi | |
Total: 916,384 Year: 3,641/9,624 Month: 512/974 Week: 125/276 Day: 22/31 Hour: 0/0 |
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: First side effect of the gay marriage ruling | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Well you've certainly failed to put together a convincing cohesive argument.
But thanks for trying, even though your effort was minimal.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
|
Nice imitation of Faith there, reversing the truth.
You were the one supposed to be making a case - that concealed carry was a fundamental right. You failed to make a case that the element of concealment had to be permitted. And now you're declaring victory and running away. Pathetic,
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
If you put as much effort into writing a comprehensible argument as you do into trying to be a dick, then I'd continue to respond to you.
But I doubt it, so I'm just going to keep thinking that you're retarded and stop. Good day, sir.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
And more hypocrisy.
You haven't produced any real argument that there is a fundamental right to carry a *concealed* gun. You've just been - in your words - a dick about it. But to put it simply. Openly carrying a gun is carrying a gun. If you are allowed to openly carry a gun you are allowed to carry a gun. Even if you are NOT allowed to carry a concealed gun. Understand that?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
If you are allowed to openly carry a gun you are allowed to carry a gun. Even if you are NOT allowed to carry a concealed gun. Understand that? Yup. The fundamental right is to carry. I don't care if its concealed or not. The same argument would have applied to a license for open carry.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
|
But I doubt it, so I'm just going to keep thinking that you're retarded and stop.
That is a very offensive comment. I know you don't care about how you offend people, but the term "retarded" is now considered by many people as extremely offensive and demeaning. People don't choose to be developmentally disabled, to use the term as an insult is extremely demeaning. Its too bad that your debating skills have reverted back to where they were when you started to post here.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
|
quote: i.e. I was right all along. There is no fundamental right to concealed carry.
quote: My argument certainly does. There is no fundamental right to carry a firearm openly, and there is no requirement to recognise open carry licenses from other states.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Maybe he can provide cites for this fundamental right to carry.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I would think that the term "keep and bear" would mean carry.
It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
I was right all along. There is no fundamental right to concealed carry. As I said, what you were right about was irrelevant to the argument.
There is no fundamental right to carry a firearm openly, There is a fundamental right to carry a firearm, period. It doesn't matter if it is open or concealed. The argument was about how licenses to carry should be handled. Whether they're concealed or open is irrelevant.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
I would think that the term "keep and bear" would mean carry. It really is that simple. Yeah, but you're talking to a guy who also wrote this, in Message 253:
quote:
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: You were arguing that there was a fundamental right to concealed carry. The fact that there is not is obviously relevant.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Well others would think differently. Does the 2nd amendment allow for open carry in any public place? Where should people be allowed to open carry? Home? Hunting? Walmart?
It is not black and white no matter what you and Cat Sci may think. Where is the cite showing people should be able to open carry everywhere they want? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
You were arguing that there was a fundamental right to concealed carry. No, you misunderstood, I said there is a fundamental right to carry and concealed or not is irrelevant.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
No, you misunderstood, I said there is a fundamental right to carry and concealed or not is irrelevant. Your statement is simply an assertion. If it is a correct statement of fact and law, then you win. However your statement does not appear to be a correct statement of the current law. States currently regulate concealed carry within their own borders. If you have a case that you have a fundamental right to carry a concealed weapon perhaps you should make that argument. If instead you are playing some kind of silly semantic game, perhaps that should end at some point. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024