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Author Topic:   Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?
Stile
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Message 6 of 424 (766424)
08-18-2015 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
08-04-2015 11:31 AM


Make our own choices
Greatest I am writes:
Religions are fairy tales for adults.
Not exactly the wording I would choose, but I accept your idea.
Should we encourage them to grow up?
No.
We should encourage them to live life the way they want to.
(As long as they're not hurting others...)
So I do not want to kill all religions but just encourage them to be more moral, tolerant and give equality to women and gays.
Sounds good to me.
If Christianity and Islam could return to the old way of seeking God instead of idol worshiping false Gods, perhaps jihadists and other fundamental believers might chill and get along the way they have at some points in our past history.
Perhaps.
There are many things that *could* help people "chill" and get along the way they have at some points in our past history.
I don't think it should be a single pronged-approach.
I don't have an issue with this possible-solution, as long as the believers don't have an issue with it either. It's their belief... it's up to them to keep it or adopt it or change it or whatever.
If they insist on hurting others, I think the primary focus should be on stopping them from... hurting others. Not stopping-something-that-we-think-is-behind-their-mindset-in-the-hopes-that-it-could-stop-them from hurting others. Cut to the chase. There's no reason to guess that their belief is the driving mindset unless you have something fundamentally against the belief itself.
I don't have a problem with anyone's belief.
I only have a problem with people's actions... if they hurt others.
Therefore, I don't care about stopping beliefs... I only care about stopping hurtful actions.
Prevent/control the actions to keep people safe and equal, and the beliefs will change themselves or fade away.
Prevent/control the beliefs to keep people safe and equal... and things will not change or fade. In fact, violence will have a good shot of getting much stronger.
Fairness is a basic, instinctual concept.
No matter our beliefs, we understand that keeping people safe and equal is fair... those who oppose the idea are fighting the uphill battle.
Attack the beliefs... and that instinctual concept of fairness transfers from obvious physical equality into belief-intellectual equality... and the uphill battle shifts onto anyone attacking the beliefs.

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