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Sure, Christianity is your flexible friend; it changes what it believes when it can't sustain its myths any longer. And bit by bit they're turning to nice squidgy liberal mush. Thank god.

Christianity, like all belief systems evolves.

Some parts die, some parts change and some parts stay the same. Hilariously a king changed it overnight beacuse the version in force at the time didn't suit him. The fact that it does change tells you a lot about the belief - ie that it's all made up. People notice.

A great start to a thread. Start it and lets discuss how reality is slightly more complex than you seem to think.Edited by jar, : fix attribution

You're not paying attention. As expected. Quoting Message 1741:

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Wrong. You have no clue about the wide range of independent dating methods that destroy your fantasy.

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First, "radiometric dating" does not mean a dating method. It refers to a wide variety of inpendent methods based on different and independent processes so fundamental to the operation of the Universe that any change in them would have gigantic Univrese-wide effects. The near-perfect agreement between these different and independent methods (your pathetic attempts to claim otherwise notwithstanding) is solid evidence of their accuracy to anyone who knows enough to evaluate it.

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In non-radiometric methods, thermoluminescence dating goes to 500,000 years. Various effects of cyclic astronomical processes such as Milankovitch cycles easily extend to 25-50 million years with progress on extending that continuing. Heliosesmology (sun quakes) go back to the origin of the a Solar system and yield an age of 4,570,000,000 years. Lake varves easily go back to 90,000 years (lake Suigetsu). Ice cores go to 160,000 years. Coral, stalactite, stalagmite growth rings. The list goes on and on.

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Note especially the bolded part.

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You are attributing a quote to me that isn't mine.

Tangle seemed to be saying there were ordinary ways the earth is shown to be old, in the various different fields of science like paleontology etc. Your list is rather exotic.

Christianity does not evolve. We have it all down in writing and it has never changed. What a king does can't affect the unchangeable written tenets of the religion. If people start to live by the king's rules instead of the Bible's it's not Christianity.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are attributing a statement to me that is not mine and I could not possibly have ever made. I assume it is from jar.

This is the third post I've run across so far with a quote attributed to me that is not mine. This must be Tangle's.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No Coyote, I've spent a lot of time here showing evidence from geology and population genetics that the standard timing of the Old Earth and the ToE is wrong. Nothing to do with religion.

I wanted evidence from the sciences you listed, and specifically NOT radiometric dating..Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Bald assertion. I've given actual evidence against all this many times from various presentation of the geologic column. Not one tectonic or volcanic or erosive event in the whole stack of strata that supposedly represent hundreds of millions of years. The Grand Staircase cross section is enough by itself to show that. All vastly exaggerated and not demonstrated.

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Bald assertion.

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As are your claims of evidence. Mine have the advantage of being true.

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I've given actual evidence against all this many times from various presentation of the geologic column.

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No, you haven’t.

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Not one tectonic or volcanic or erosive event in the whole stack of strata that supposedly represent hundreds of millions of years. The Grand Staircase cross section is enough by itself to show that.

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The angular unconformity at the Supergroup is strong evidence, alone.

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All vastly exaggerated and not demonstrated.

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Bare assertion. Geologists have been working on these questions, you know.