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Topic: Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2656 of 2887 (832409)
05-03-2018 11:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 2654 by Faith
05-03-2018 11:51 AM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes: But I also know I've done a basically good job of putting together the arguments for the Flood.
Then you have very low standards.
An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2657 of 2887 (832410)
05-03-2018 11:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 2650 by JonF
05-03-2018 11:02 AM
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Re: trilobite species
Somebody has a signature saying you sometimes have to ridicule an idea, and I agree. Insulting the idea might wake some people up who take it way too seriously. That's the hope. If ideas are really ridiculous they shouldn't be treated with respect, even the most accepted ideas of the day. And it is not true that I haven't done anything else to refute them. The landscape scenario problem is hard to get across but I've done a lot to describe and refute it.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 2658 of 2887 (832411)
05-03-2018 11:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 2654 by Faith
05-03-2018 11:51 AM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes: I don't take credit for a lot of my ideas. I pray and God shows me things. Better proof for the non-existence of god would be hard to find.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2659 of 2887 (832412)
05-03-2018 11:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 2656 by ringo
05-03-2018 11:56 AM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Maybe I have low standards, or maybe I'm just up against a hidebound bunch of anti-dreationists.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2660 of 2887 (832413)
05-03-2018 11:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 2647 by NoNukes
05-03-2018 10:42 AM
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Re: trilobite species
Yes I did.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2661 of 2887 (832414)
05-03-2018 12:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 2659 by Faith
05-03-2018 11:57 AM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes: ... maybe I'm just up against a hidebound bunch of anti-dreationists.
You're up against the evidence. And you're also up against the Bible.
An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2662 of 2887 (832416)
05-03-2018 12:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 2646 by 14174dm
05-03-2018 10:40 AM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
One important detail to note is that the layers above the eroded channels in the column are level. If the channels were due to salt or limestone dissolving after the layers were deposited, the layers above would have sagged. Yes I noticed that and that does usually happen, but in this case I'd guess the amount of salt wasn't great enough AND the channels filled up with soft sediments that had already been deposited.
The only way I can think of having channels in the buried layers with level layers above is to erode the channels then add layers above. l Or for sediments already deposited but still soft to fill up the channel? f Edited by Faith, : qs
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2663 of 2887 (832417)
05-03-2018 12:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 2661 by ringo
05-03-2018 12:01 PM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Disagree on both counts.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2664 of 2887 (832419)
05-03-2018 12:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 2658 by Tangle
05-03-2018 11:56 AM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Better proof for the non-existence of god would be hard to find. Or for the stubborn willful blindness of fallen humanity.
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JonF
Member (Idle past 189 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 2665 of 2887 (832420)
05-03-2018 12:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 2663 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:06 PM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
But nothing to say to support your disagreement.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2666 of 2887 (832421)
05-03-2018 12:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 2663 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:06 PM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes: Disagree on both counts.
And you're wrong on both counts. Mountains of evidence (literally) disproves your Flood and you can't explain any of it. And the Bible doesn't support your fantasy of repeated waves, volcanoes, etc. It's all in your head.
An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2667 of 2887 (832422)
05-03-2018 12:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 2665 by JonF
05-03-2018 12:09 PM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
But nothing to say to support your disagreement. Nor did ringo have anything to say to support the remark I disagreed with.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 2668 of 2887 (832423)
05-03-2018 12:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 2666 by ringo
05-03-2018 12:10 PM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Funny, I think you are wrong on both counts, and that the status quo interpretation has no real evidence and is definitely all in your heads. Keep up the silly one liners, ringo, I can answer you one for one.
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 2669 of 2887 (832425)
05-03-2018 12:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 2653 by Faith
05-03-2018 11:49 AM
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Re: no supergenome
Nothing changed genetically after the Flood, This is true of the human genome as well. mtDNA is the same both before and after the purported date of the flood.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2670 of 2887 (832426)
05-03-2018 12:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 2668 by Faith
05-03-2018 12:13 PM
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Re: Ancient beaches and seas, no
Faith writes: Keep up the silly one liners, ringo, I can answer you one for one.
But you can't. You always run away from discussions of the Bible (as well you should because you wouldn't recognise the Bible if it sat down beside you in church). And you've proven in almost every post that you have no explanation for the evidence.
An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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