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granpa
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Message 466 of 489 (822201)
10-20-2017 9:43 PM


Genesis describes the evolution of man. The rest of the Bible describes the evolution of Jesus.

Why BELIEVE that it will rain today when you can KNOW that it might rain today. Belief is unnecessary and illogical.

A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.

A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.


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Message 467 of 489 (822203)
10-20-2017 9:50 PM
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10-20-2017 9:14 PM


Stasis is also a fundamental prediction of evolution. The same process that cause change also cause stasis. The variable there is how well adapted the population already is. Think of negative feedback loops as an analogy.

And Darwin did know and state that the rate of evolutionary change would vary. He overemphasized gradualism in response to the saltationists who called for sudden changes, such as a new organ appearing in a single generation. Saltationism is basically just another form of creationism.


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Message 468 of 489 (822205)
10-20-2017 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 466 by granpa
10-20-2017 9:43 PM


I wonder which part of Genesis "describes the evolution of man"? Kind of off-topic, though.
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Message 469 of 489 (822206)
10-20-2017 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 467 by dwise1
10-20-2017 9:50 PM


The bet Darwin never suspected that the superstition of spontaneuos generation would reappear in a different form - Punctuated Equilibrium.
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granpa
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Message 470 of 489 (822209)
10-20-2017 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 468 by Dredge
10-20-2017 10:08 PM


I cant propose a new topic because I cant post in that forum.


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Message 471 of 489 (822212)
10-20-2017 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 470 by granpa
10-20-2017 10:45 PM


granpa does not have any forum posting restrictions
granpa writes:

I cant propose a new topic because I cant post in that forum.

I just checked - You didn't have and still don't have any posting restrictions in any forum, including "Proposed New Topics".

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Remove stray extra word and further tweak.


Or something like that.

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granpa
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Message 472 of 489 (822213)
10-20-2017 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 471 by Adminnemooseus
10-20-2017 11:25 PM


Re: granpa does not have any forum posting restrictions
I quote:

You do not have new topic privileges on this board

https://i.imgur.com/6maoa5I.png

Edited by granpa, : No reason given.


Why BELIEVE that it will rain today when you can KNOW that it might rain today. Belief is unnecessary and illogical.

A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.

A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.


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Message 473 of 489 (822214)
10-21-2017 12:01 AM
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10-20-2017 11:28 PM


Re: granpa does not have any forum posting restrictions
Sorry, overlooked something before. Indeed, your profile settings do not permit topic starting.

I'm not now going to change this setting, but I will bring the mater up in the Private Admin Forum.

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Posted by wrong (aka non-admin) mode.


Or something like that.

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dwise1
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Message 474 of 489 (822219)
10-21-2017 3:53 AM
Reply to: Message 469 by Dredge
10-20-2017 10:11 PM


What? You replied with a complete non-sentence?

What? You literally had nothing to say?

And your pathetic attempt to tie punctuated equilibrium with SPONTANEOUS GENERATION? Just what kind of krack are you smoking?

Here is a bit of advice for you:

If you want to oppose evolution, THEN LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT EVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want to use punctuated equilibrium, THEN LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As long as you do nothing but regurgitate stupid creationist lies, you are telling us more unmistakably that you are an idiotic creationist drone incapable of any actual thought. And that their statements are completely and utterly false.

And just what is that complete and utter bullshit about "spontaneous generation", which everybody knows has absolutely nothing to do with punctuated equilibria.


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Message 475 of 489 (822224)
10-21-2017 7:34 AM
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10-20-2017 10:11 PM


The bet Darwin never suspected that the superstition of spontaneous generation would reappear in a different form - Punctuated Equilibrium.

Before posting such twaddle you should learn what "spontaneous generation" and "Punctuated Equilibrium" mean. They are not even close to meaning the same thing.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 476 of 489 (822226)
10-21-2017 10:51 AM
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10-20-2017 10:11 PM


The bet Darwin never suspected that the superstition of spontaneuos generation would reappear in a different form - Punctuated Equilibrium.

The superficial illiteracy of your post only serves to accentuate its deep fundamental stupidity.

Why didn't you learn what any of those words meant before putting them together in a post?

And why the devil did you puke up this bit of moronic ignorance on this particular thread anyway? Confine yourself to the topic, which is how evolutionists have the fossils and win. Do you have anything to say about that?


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Message 477 of 489 (822227)
10-21-2017 10:55 AM
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10-20-2017 9:14 PM


The fossil record reveals the miserable failure of Darwism's most fundamental prediction - gradualism. Gould stated that the fossil record is characterised two things antithetical to gradualism - sudden appearance and stasis.

Sudden appearance and stasis fit two fundamental predictions of creation. Ain't that interesting?

You lie a lot, don't you?


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Message 478 of 489 (822318)
10-22-2017 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 477 by Dr Adequate
10-21-2017 10:55 AM


I don't know what you mean. Can you elaborate, please?
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Message 479 of 489 (822335)
10-23-2017 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 478 by Dredge
10-22-2017 9:04 PM


Let me help
I don't know what you mean. Can you elaborate, please?

This statement of yours:

Message 465: The fossil record reveals the miserable failure of Darwism's most fundamental prediction - gradualism. ...

Is false: (a) it is not "fundamental" and (b) Darwin also discussed periods of rapid change between periods of little change.

This statement of yours:

Message 469:The bet Darwin never suspected that the superstition of spontaneous generation would reappear in a different form - Punctuated Equilibrium.

Is false: spontaneous generation has absolutely nothing to do with punctuated equilibrium.

These are two examples take from two recent posts of yours, showing a consistent pattern of telling falsehoods.

When you repeat falsehoods after being told they are falsehoods, that shows intent to tell falsehoods: lying.

Enjoy


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Message 480 of 489 (822339)
10-23-2017 11:12 AM
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10-22-2017 9:04 PM


I don't know what you mean. Can you elaborate, please?

I mean that you are frequently prone to mendacity, that you have a persistent tendency to untruthfulness, that it is your habit and custom to perpetrate falsehoods, and that you have often been known to fib. Did I stutter?


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