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Message 526 of 580 (824544)
11-30-2017 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 523 by Percy
11-30-2017 9:19 AM


Re: what a pathetic God Dredge markets
Percy, I hope you will wander over to the RC Sproul thread and contribute since the Unitarians and the Congregationalists represent one end of the church Governance spectrum. Of all the Denominational Churches the Congregationalists may well be the most bottom up as opposed to top down organization structure where even Doctrine is determined at the individual church level.

It would be great to have that structure and concept presented to contrast with the other organizational methods hopefully to be discussed.


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Message 527 of 580 (824547)
11-30-2017 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 521 by Dredge
11-30-2017 4:17 AM


Stop this. Your questions and accusations are like rocks hurled at my fragile, egg-shell mind.

So you're telling us repeatedly in several messages already that you are too feeble-minded to be able to understand anything you're told.

For once, I believe that you are telling us the truth.

You need to enlighten me on these points. Please explains zem.

Which would be doomed to failure because you are self-admittedly far too stupid and feeble-minded to be able to understand any explanation that anyone could offer. It would be a complete waste of time and effort. You have described yourself as being beyond redemption.

You're partly correct - not a theory, but excellent theology which can also accommodate the geological evidence of the history of the earth.

How could you possibly know that a theology is excellent and not pure bullshit? You are self-admittedly far too stupid and feeble-minded to be able to evaluate anything, let alone a theology.

If someone placed a cow-pie (ie, cow manure) on a plate in front of you and told you that it is delicious, you would gobble the whole thing with a big shit-eating grin on your face. As you have repeatedly described and repeatedly demonstrated, you are indeed that mentally deficient.

If you cannot keep up and can only post foolish nonsense, why even try? All you are accomplishing is to demonstrate the brain damage that your religion causes its followers.


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Message 528 of 580 (824600)
12-01-2017 3:49 AM
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11-30-2017 7:16 AM


Re: what a pathetic God/World/Univers Dredge markets
Ignorance is bliss. The Achilles' Heel of the Left is their poor aptitude for distinguishing fact from fiction.

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Message 529 of 580 (824601)
12-01-2017 3:54 AM
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11-30-2017 9:30 AM


You've never heard of the Gap theory of creation? Google it.
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Message 530 of 580 (824602)
12-01-2017 4:09 AM
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11-30-2017 9:32 AM


Re: what a pathetic God Dredge markets
The religion of Equality is a bit like the religion of Darwinism - it has only one enemy - reality. Restrictions on freedom of speech prevent me from expressing my thoughts about the insane, Marxist delusions of equality that exists in Western civilization. The senseless Loony Left laps up this demented, vacuous rubbish because it massages their egos and makes them feel morally superior.

And from the beginning (Eve in the Garden of Eden), Satan has used the sophistry of equality to deceive and harm mankind.

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Message 531 of 580 (824603)
12-01-2017 4:21 AM
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11-30-2017 10:25 AM


In other words, you can't demonstrate that my theology is wrong.
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Message 532 of 580 (824606)
12-01-2017 7:25 AM
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12-01-2017 3:49 AM


Re: what a pathetic God/World/Univers Dredge markets
Ignorance is bliss. ...

You must know. To me ignorance is like a 50 year old person still wearing a diaper and thinking it is the emperor's new clothes.

If that is bliss for you then enjoy it.

... The Achilles' Heel of the Left is their poor aptitude for distinguishing fact from fiction.

Then back up your statements with facts to show they aren't fiction. Bet you can't, bet you won't even try.

You don't know what facts are. Facts don't depend on politics or preferences, they are objective, empirical and indifferent to your biases.

Enjoy

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Message 533 of 580 (824609)
12-01-2017 8:04 AM
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12-01-2017 7:25 AM


Re: what a pathetic God/World/Univers Dredge markets
RAZD, he will only be able to try do it when pigs can fly. With fairy wings.
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Message 534 of 580 (824616)
12-01-2017 8:43 AM
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12-01-2017 4:21 AM


Science and Evidence
In other words, you can't demonstrate that my theology is wrong.
But this is a science thread. Steer the topic back to the science and take beliefs elsewhere.

  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
  • Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation.
  • The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

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    Message 535 of 580 (824617)
    12-01-2017 8:46 AM


    quote:

    war is peace
    freedom is slavery
    ignorance is strength

    These words are the official slogans of the Party, and are inscribed in massive letters on the white pyramid of the Ministry of Truth


    1984, George Orwell


    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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    Message 536 of 580 (824621)
    12-01-2017 10:26 AM
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    12-01-2017 4:21 AM


    In other words, you can't demonstrate that my theology is wrong.

    We already have, many times, repeatedly. You were incapable of understanding anything.

    Remember, you are the one who keeps telling us that you are far too mentally incompetent to understand anything at all. So you could not even begin to understand our explanations, as you have repeatedly stated explicitly. And you obviously are far too mentally incompetent (as you repeatedly admit yourself) to ever be able to evaluate any theology, let alone determine whether it's right or wrong.

    All of which ignores the simple fact that all theologies are wrong. All theologies are Man-made, are created by fallible humans. And given your degree of mental incompetence, which makes you far more fallible than most other humans, then the theology that you have created is in far worse shape than most others.

    Of course, you could decide to believe in human infallibility, but that's an extremely stupid thing to believe in.


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    Message 537 of 580 (824626)
    12-01-2017 11:50 AM
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    12-01-2017 4:21 AM


    why bother?
    In other words, you can't demonstrate that my theology is wrong.

    There are many fantasies and delusions that we have no need to demonstrate whether or not they are "wrong" -- because they are irrelevant.

    You can believe any little conceptual framework you like to construct around your pet beliefs, but that doesn't make them real or relevant to any other person.

    If you would like to convince anyone that your mental ramblings are of value, the onus is on you to show how it is supported.

    And that's why science is better than any theology, especially those that are compiled from after the fact god-did-it that way blustering -- because if it IS wrong THAT can be demonstrated.

    Enjoy

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    Message 538 of 580 (824662)
    12-01-2017 7:59 PM
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    12-01-2017 4:09 AM


    Re: what a pathetic God Dredge markets
    The religion of Equality is a bit like the religion of Darwinism - it has only one enemy - reality. Restrictions on freedom of speech prevent me from expressing my thoughts about the insane, Marxist delusions of equality that exists in Western civilization. The senseless Loony Left laps up this demented, vacuous rubbish because it massages their egos and makes them feel morally superior.

    And from the beginning (Eve in the Garden of Eden), Satan has used the sophistry of equality to deceive and harm mankind.

    What "restrictions on freedom of speech" prevent you from expressing your opinions? Perhaps the moderators would prefer that you use another thread for your rantings (so would I) but I'm sure they'll let you have your say.


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    Message 539 of 580 (824663)
    12-01-2017 8:01 PM
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    12-01-2017 3:54 AM


    You've never heard of the Gap theory of creation? Google it.

    I note that this is not actually a reply to my post.

    If you find your bullshit indefensible, you should abandon it. That would be more dignified than to go on posting after you've run out of things to say.


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    Message 540 of 580 (824716)
    12-02-2017 4:26 PM


    Well, many fossils have been found but they cannot be submitted as evidence for evolution. Here's why:
    The fossils that have been discovered so far could represent only the tiniest fraction of the total number of fossils in existence. So our present fossil collection could be so small as to be "statistically insignificant". An election result can't be decided if only 0.01% of the votes have been counted, can it?

    Furthermore, since there is no way of knowing the total number of fossils in existence, there is no way of knowing when a "statistically significant" number of fossils have been collected. In which case, the fossil record can never be safely used as definitive empirical evidence for evolution.

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    "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe in them" - George Orwell

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