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Message 10 of 221 (769730)
09-24-2015 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Lamden
09-24-2015 11:11 AM


Re: Thanks to all of you for reading my question
I do, however, believe, that an inability to provide any estimate whatsoever as to the likelihood or possibility of evolution occurring is a strike against the theory. Perhaps not a fatal blow, but a serious shortfall .
There is quite a difference between being able to observe evolution via the evidence of fossils, genetics, laboratory experiments, and real life observations and being able to explain all the fine points of how it occurred.
You can't erase all of the evidence for evolution because of not knowing the exact rate of mutation for 3.8 billion years, though I'm sure creationists would like to do so.

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Message 94 of 221 (770512)
10-07-2015 12:28 AM


Unintelligent Non-design Suffices
Making Genetic Networks Operate Robustly: Unintelligent Non-design Suffices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsbKzFdW2bM
Mathematical computer models of two ancient and famous genetic networks act early in embryos of many different species to determine the body plan. Models revealed these networks to be astonishingly robust, despite their 'unintelligent design.' This examines the use of mathematical models to shed light on how biological, pattern-forming gene networks operate and how thoughtless, haphazard, non-design produces networks whose robustness seems inspired, begging the question what else unintelligent non-design might be capable of.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

  
Coyote
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Message 132 of 221 (770636)
10-09-2015 10:30 PM


Back to...
Back to the main point.
How long does it take to evolve?
Dunno. I've been waiting for quite a few years and I seem to be devolving more than I am evolving.
Hmmmm. What's wrong here???

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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