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GDR
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Message 48 of 145 (771353)
10-24-2015 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Raphael
10-22-2015 9:49 PM


Raphael writes:
What caused Jesus death was that he literally claimed to be God. And not merely the Son of God either, he blatantly and openly claimed to be one with YHWH, the Jewish God that was supposed to be the only God. (John 10:30). His own people were so incensed by this that they attempted to kill him at least twice before his crucifixion, simply for claiming divinity.
This may be nit picking but I don't see it quite that way. As we read in John Chap 1, Jesus embodied the "Word (or Wisdom) of God. The Gospels essentially paint a picture of Yahweh's return to His people being done through the man Jesus. Jesus prayed to the Father and stated that equality with God the Father was not something that should be considered. Jesus didn't resurrect Himself. It was God who resurrected Him and it was God who performed the miracles through the man Jesus.
In Daniel 7 we have the image of the "Son of Man" being presented to the ancient of days and given dominion over the nations.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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GDR
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Message 50 of 145 (771406)
10-25-2015 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Faith
10-25-2015 12:57 AM


Re: Who raised Jesus?
Hi Faith. Put the word raised into a word search in an online Bible and see just how many times it says that God raised Jesus.
How do you explain Jesus praying in Gethsemane to not have to go through with what He knew lay ahead of Him in Jerusalem. Just who was He praying to? Himself?
If you want to understand Jesus' divinity read Daniel 7 where the Son of Man is presented to The Ancient of Days.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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