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dronestar
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Message 496 of 508 (773915)
12-10-2015 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 487 by caffeine
12-09-2015 4:18 PM


Re: States and People
caffeine writes:

Most who did vote for that government share no responsibility either,

*blinks*


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Message 497 of 508 (773916)
12-10-2015 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 495 by dronestar
12-10-2015 3:55 PM


Re: The West has no credibility.
Dronestar you have made up your mind that the West has no credibility, is responsible for the terrorism being visited upon them and is willfully bombing doctors and hospitals. I agree it is a horrible situation but then again so is decades of war. I can not defend nor want to defend the indefensible. I simply do not agree or believe it is the ideology and wishes of the West to kill innocent civilians and I do not agree that ISIL should be doing so either. You are a convincing debater and obviously passionate about the subject. Maybe you should run for office somewhere and affect the change you want to see in the world. Take care dronestar.

Edited by 1.61803, : added debater.


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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dronestar
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Message 498 of 508 (773918)
12-10-2015 4:33 PM
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12-10-2015 4:19 PM


Re: The West has no credibility.
1.61803 writes:

I simply do not agree

1.61803 writes:

You are a convincing debater

*blink*

It would appear that I am only a convincing debater with those who do not prefer delusion over reality.


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dronestar
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Message 499 of 508 (774176)
12-14-2015 9:09 AM


Hooray for the military industrial complex . . .

  
Faith
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Message 500 of 508 (817775)
08-20-2017 8:26 AM


"Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Story HERE

Barcelona's chief rabbi has urged Jews to move to Israel because Europe has been "lost" to radical Islam, and Spain has been a "hub of Islamist terror for all of Europe" for years.

"I tell my congregants, 'Don't think we're here for good,' and I encourage them to buy property in Israel," Chief Rabbi Meir Bar-Hen told the Jewish news agency JTA in an interview Friday.

"This place is lost," he said. "Don't repeat the mistake of Algerian Jews, of Venezuelan Jews.

"Better [get out] early than late," Bar-Hen warned. "Europe is lost."

Fourteen people died and as many as 130 were injured when a white van plowed into a popular Barcelona tourist area Thursday evening.


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Tangle
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Message 501 of 508 (817780)
08-20-2017 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 500 by Faith
08-20-2017 8:26 AM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Faith writes:

Fourteen people died and as many as 130 were injured when a white van plowed into a popular Barcelona tourist area Thursday evening.

This was a terrorist attack on the whole of Western society - Jews weren't targeted. If religions didn't believe themselves to be so unique, special and chosen, we wouldn't have these sorts of problem.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Faith
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Message 502 of 508 (817783)
08-20-2017 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 501 by Tangle
08-20-2017 9:08 AM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Jews may not have been particularly targeted in the Barcelona event but they are targeted by Islam's doctrines and have definitely also been targeted in some attacks, such as against synagogues but also attacks on individuals, particularly in France. Any attacks in the name of Islam, however, are rightly understood by the Jews to hold a potential threat to themselves.
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Message 503 of 508 (817789)
08-20-2017 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 500 by Faith
08-20-2017 8:26 AM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Barcelona's chief rabbi has urged Jews to move to Israel because Europe has been "lost" to radical Islam, and Spain has been a "hub of Islamist terror for all of Europe" for years.

HAHAHAHAHA! Jewish comedians are the best, even when they are being this dark. Move to Israel to avoid Islamic terrorism! Nice one!

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Tangle
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Message 504 of 508 (817797)
08-20-2017 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 502 by Faith
08-20-2017 10:09 AM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Faith writes:

Any attacks in the name of Islam, however, are rightly understood by the Jews to hold a potential threat to themselves.

Yeh, Jews are special. Just like Muslims and Christians. And....

You're all the chosen ones it's just that some are more chosen than others.

70 years since the division of India and the founding of Pakistan - Hindus murdering Muslims and vice versa on a grand scales. 'When will they ever learn?'


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.
I am Finland. I am Barcelona.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Faith
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Message 505 of 508 (817824)
08-20-2017 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 504 by Tangle
08-20-2017 11:35 AM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
The Jews are specifically targeted in the Koran, and have been the victims of Muslim attacks in France.

Yes Hindus and Muslims attack each other in Pakistan and India. In India lately there have been a lot of attacks by Hindus on Christians, according to an Indian pastor I hear from. He is wondering if he can find a seminary in the US to enroll in for a year or two as a way to escape their attacks and protect his family by bringing them here.

However, again, Islam does specifically target Jews in the Koran.

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Tangle
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Message 506 of 508 (817825)
08-20-2017 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 505 by Faith
08-20-2017 4:51 PM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Faith writes:

The Jews are specifically targeted in the Koran, and have been the victims of Muslim attacks in France

Look in my signature, how many attacks have been against Jews? On your own territory, how many?

Yes Hindus and Muslims attack each other in Pakistan and India. In India lately there have been a lot of attacks by Hindus on Christians,

So religion is a great thing isn't it?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.
I am Finland. I am Barcelona.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Faith
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Message 507 of 508 (817830)
08-20-2017 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 506 by Tangle
08-20-2017 5:35 PM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Your signature refers to the big headline stories, not the everyday neighborhood attacks on Jews.

As for "religion" being some kind of special problem, I'd point out that the Jews and Christians are the victims in these current cases, so not ALL religion is the problem. And besides do I need to point out all the nonreligious murdering ideologies?


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Tangle
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Message 508 of 508 (817849)
08-21-2017 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 507 by Faith
08-20-2017 6:05 PM


Re: "Europe is Lost" says Barcelona's Chief Rabbi
Faith writes:

Your signature refers to the big headline stories, not the everyday neighborhood attacks on Jews.

And the post I was replying to - which you posted - was one of them.

As for "religion" being some kind of special problem, I'd point out that the Jews and Christians are the victims in these current cases, so not ALL religion is the problem.

Cobblers - the terrorists were not discriminating in Barcelona, they ran down anyone in their path, young old, all religions and none.

And as Mod pointed out, the idea that Jews could avoid being attacked by Muslims by emigrating to Israel is hilarious.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. I am Barcelona.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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