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Topic: 2014 was hotter than 1998. 2015 data in yet?
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 21 of 357 (775805)
01-05-2016 9:11 AM
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Reply to: Message 20 by Jon
01-05-2016 6:04 AM
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Re: The Bigger Picture
Looking at the bigger picture: What should our goal as a species be? Not to take any shit from the Martians.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 74 of 357 (776324)
01-11-2016 9:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by Jon
01-09-2016 9:29 AM
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Re: o.k.
There's no guarantee of a better world. Yeah, a wrathful denialist god could vengefully smite us rather than let us prove him wrong.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 91 of 357 (776465)
01-13-2016 8:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 84 by Jon
01-12-2016 12:17 PM
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Re: What's stopping Texas?
It's not just about finding instances where it's cheaper. It's about showinging that it's scalable. That's what my inquiries into your claims about Maryland meeting all its energy needs with just a few square miles of solar panels have been getting at. To go for a moment back to the example of steam technology, Newcomen's invention was perhaps more efficient (and effective) than alternatives, but its outrageous use of coal made it impracticable as a power source pretty much anywhere other than at a coal mine. Its benefits at the coal mine disappeared once away from the mine. It was limited in where and how it could be used and was thus not scalable. I think there are similar obstacles facing solar. Because unless someone can figure out some way of transporting electricity, solar power will only ever be economical for people living near sun mines. It's not like photons magically fall out of the sky or something.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 95 of 357 (776473)
01-13-2016 9:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 92 by Jon
01-13-2016 9:07 PM
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Re: What's stopping Texas?
Yeah. As Fox News famously explained to us, solar power only really works in sun-drenched countries such as Germany. As for transporting electricity, I guess that will always remain an impossible dream.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 157 of 357 (777146)
01-26-2016 5:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 152 by Jon
01-26-2016 12:34 PM
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Re: 216 feet
How much FF would we have to burn (and how fast) to melt all the ice? You've got a good point. Unless and until the people who tell us that we should take no action can answer that question exactly, we should ignore them.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 160 of 357 (777155)
01-26-2016 8:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 158 by Jon
01-26-2016 6:14 PM
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Re: 216 feet
You mean we should all give up the only source of energy we know to be capable of improving our lives (clean water, abundant food, health care, personal - and, by extension, economic and political - freedom, warm houses and general good times) out of what may be an insanely irrational fear? No, that's not what I mean. Do you want to guess again?
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 175 of 357 (777215)
01-27-2016 3:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 169 by Jon
01-27-2016 7:51 AM
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Re: 216 feet
A fear is irrational if the things feared are unlikely. But are they unlikely? Let me present you once again with a question that a wise man once asked:
How much FF would we have to burn (and how fast) to melt all the ice? If you don't know, if you don't have exact figures, then how can you imply that we should take no action? C'mon, let's see your precise data, let's see your unquestionably correct climate models.
Where's the numbers? Where's the data? Good question. Produce the numbers and the data. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 180 of 357 (777240)
01-27-2016 11:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 178 by Jon
01-27-2016 9:21 PM
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Re: 216 feet
Yes. Where's the numbers? Where's the data?
Where have I either said or implied that we should "take no action"? In your posts. If you did not mean to imply that, do please tell us what action you think should be taken.
You mean do the research for someone else's argument? No, for yours.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 204 of 357 (777361)
01-29-2016 3:15 PM
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Jon
So, Jon has yet to produce any data to support the program that he has yet to describe. I'm not really surprised.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 243 of 357 (777640)
02-04-2016 10:09 PM
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Did Jon present his plan yet? Did it consist of three words, and was the middle one "baby"? Just asking.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 324 of 357 (780305)
03-13-2016 11:44 PM
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February Breaks January's Record
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February 2016 has soared past all rivals as the warmest seasonally adjusted month in more than a century of global recordkeeping. NASA’s analysis showed that February ran 1.35C (2.43F) above the 1951-1980 global average for the month, as can be seen in the list of monthly anomalies going back to 1880. The previous record was set just last month, as January 2016 came in 1.14C above the 1951-1980 average for the month. In other words, February has dispensed with this one-month-old record by a full 0.21C (0.38F)--an extraordinary margin to beat a monthly world temperature record by.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 331 of 357 (784021)
05-11-2016 12:13 AM
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