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Author Topic:   Christians And Science Don't Get Along
Davidjay 
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Message 56 of 93 (810955)
06-03-2017 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
01-21-2016 3:10 AM


Real Christians study and search out truths
I differ Phat, as American Christians is definitely mislabeled, as that set of Christians for the most part (meaning majority) means church Chrisdtians..and if that be the parameter, I definitely agree, because the pastors and preachers of the worldly church system encourage their people NOT to study either the bible nor science nor current events, as wisdom and knowledge makes them harder to control and manipulate.
Real Christians on the other hand stuydy and search like Jesus said to do, and dont get deceived within science nor in the deceptions of nations and their deceptive leaders, nor by the devoid and materialistic churches and church leaders

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Message 58 of 93 (811029)
06-04-2017 10:05 AM
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06-03-2017 11:02 AM


Re: Christianity and Science are ONE and the SAME
I have been teaching you the bible and science...... and love to defeat evolution as it is not loogical, or scientific or Christian.
Its not my ego, its simple knowledge and wisdom and science based.
Its explainable, but evolutionists want to push and remove all doubters to their religion.
They want to silence opposition as they are not used to answering questions. Why because their answers or any statement of theirs can be opposed rationally and they get very frustrated that people DONT BELIEVE in their doctrine. Therefore they must ****** opposition, in this case ** opposition.
Thanks for allwoing me to prove this HERE**.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Davidjay 
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Message 60 of 93 (811123)
06-05-2017 10:26 AM


CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
Jesus and His Christianity have always agreed with science because He created science and all the laws and all the creations of the Universe. To suggest differently, one would have to be an ********, e*********, or ********.
I have aleardy posted Famous Scientists that were Christians and logical and rational and factual and searched for truths as Jesus told his disciples to search for truths.... in all areas of the life the Lord created.
SEE http://whychristianity.com/
But now the false church system is getting along and siding with false science, in biology called evolution (also called luck and chance philophy). The church system for the most part (also called the majority) now supports the unbiblical evolution historical record because the majority of people always want to be with ther majority opinion.... as they are dumb easily intimidated sheep
So I differ with the topic and title, and would change it to CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
IMHO

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Davidjay 
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Message 62 of 93 (811128)
06-05-2017 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Coyote
06-05-2017 10:36 AM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
The same can be said about evolutionists, they reject anything that differs with their religious belief system in evolution...
But each individual has to search and be responsible for their choices. In Christianity, Jesus makes sure it is an individual CHOICE as He is not group oriented and does not force like evolutionists in their schools and universities.
Its all a matter of FREE CHOICE.... evolutionists should learn about free choice, **** speech and ***** discussions....
Coyote similiarly you must learn and study SET LAW, as some is a minority and some does not disprove all. Learn what SET LAW dictates about a majority or over half and what you can learn from its LOGIC. Then your comments would make more sense. Similarly dont automatically mindlessly deny deny deny, think and study what you are commenting on without trying to always back up your religion and put down Christianity and Christ.
Just a suggestion...

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Message 64 of 93 (811132)
06-05-2017 11:03 AM
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06-05-2017 10:48 AM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE..read this
King James Version (KJV) - Version Information - BibleGateway.com
Instead of reading your myths and non facts, Read above...do get to the source and get your Science correct, start with Moses and Genesis.... and have some sort of base for your decision making and science..
JESUS and SCIENCE get along... much better name or title or topic.
Note how I always try to stay on topic and answer the question of the topic, even when you do not.... Its a habit, as the S************ are always looking for an ****** to ***** **.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Davidjay 
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Message 68 of 93 (811213)
06-05-2017 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by ringo
06-05-2017 12:14 PM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
Only if they make up their own definition of science.
Actually Ringo the evolutionist, one of your own actually admitted that your religion, makes up definitions as they go, saying that a KIND is only a bible definition and they dont go by KINDS.
This is why you cant debate them according to KINDS or SPECIES as they have no boundaries and are only cemetarians from their seminaries and religious institutions called Universities of Forced Learning.
You evolutionists do change definitions whenever its needed by you. Its amazing but TRUE.
This is why you think just changing a clad name by one letter, proves an evolutionary branch. Then you deny braqnching, then you say we came from chimps and apes, and then say all things are presently equally evolved as there is no present evolutionary branching. It is confusing as hell because the doctrine comes from there.
Now you know..
IHS
David

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Davidjay 
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Message 72 of 93 (811455)
06-08-2017 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by ringo
06-06-2017 11:40 AM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
Evolutionists are strictly into semantics.. they have nothing else.
Their semantic classifications are a sheer joke and hilarious except some duped people believe them. Its where their research funding goes. Its all just a con, and letter manipulation into clades, and sets that supposedly originate our species and Kind. But they still dont know what clade we came from and just argue argue argue about their theology of theoriology of theories upon theories.
This is why Razz and others theorise and want to bring attention to their latest break through theory.
Maybe they can get some notoriety or research funds to further advance their theory, in their semantic disconnected brains.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Davidjay 
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Message 74 of 93 (811516)
06-08-2017 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by ringo
06-08-2017 11:49 AM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
Evolutionists/Atheists should get real and know biology instead of accepting demented non mathematical unscientific theories rather than observed phenomena and traits and abilties and instincts and behaviours..
Evolutionists reject genetics and know not genetics as they still think inbreeding (like Razz) is a proof of evolutionary change. They still think color change is evolutionary proof, they still think that the semantic change of one letter changes the clade setting of human ancestry.
Evolutionist/atheism is for non scientific types to fantasize about their upbringing and their future offspring... even though they refuse to talk about human sexuality in an OPEN FORUM, or beneficial mutations in an OPEN FORUM, or maybe ten different other topics of interest to truth seekers in an OPEN FORUM.
Neverthless truth always wins in the end, and in the middle and from the start. truth always defeats and obliterates the whining and complaints of those with lack of intelligence and a lack of design who trust luck and chance as their Saviour.
IMHO
David

Thanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...

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Davidjay 
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Message 77 of 93 (811606)
06-09-2017 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Taq
06-09-2017 1:21 PM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
Agreed, evolutionists and atheists dont get along with science because it goes against their religious belief system. hence they attempt to force it upon the young and even among the older, easily intimidated sheep.
Real Christians love to study design and the laws of design and laws of Nature that the Lord created and designed. real Christians dont worship science as if science itself is a god that created all things but realise science is just the set of laws and truths that describe what the Lord has done and how He created all things.
Evolutionists and atheists hate anything or anyone knowing more than them especially if they state that there is a GOD or a divinity above them. Why because evolutionists and atheists want to believe, they are the top predator and top dog.... or most advanced piece of 'dust' until into dust they return.........., when their time is up... and they go down.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Thanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...

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Davidjay 
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Message 79 of 93 (811615)
06-09-2017 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Taq
06-09-2017 3:42 PM


Re: CHRISTIANS get along with SCIENCE
Evolution and atheism are BOTH religions...
Lets take evolution to start with...
I wont post the whole article because you wouldnt read it anyway... but Readers MIGHT and it would help them...
Onward Christian and nonChristioan Readers searching for truths...
Evolutionisareligion

Thanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...

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Davidjay 
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Message 83 of 93 (811662)
06-10-2017 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
06-10-2017 9:18 AM


Honor Creator rather than Creation
Or you can look at the pic of the month and see the GLORY OF GOD, through a telescope...... take your pic, as seeing should be believing by the heathen but they give glory to luck and chance for the heavens and stars, and when looking through their microscopes and when seeing their own bodies.
Yet whether micro or macro, the design of the Lord can be seen and appreciated, or as 'Faith' mentions or as "Issac' mentioned just get on your hands and knees and see it without any aids.... either way or anyway, the Lords glories can be seen and appreciated if you have an open mind and heart.
But dont worship the Creation or the PIC OF THE MONTH Nebulus, honor the Creator rather than the Creation.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Thanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...

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Davidjay 
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Message 86 of 93 (811668)
06-10-2017 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by PaulK
06-10-2017 11:18 AM


Mystery solved
You forget, that the Almighty Creator can speak through someone in prayer to lead and quide them to all truth or a segment of the truth.
Honest sincere people can see the heavenlies in a vision etc.. as Faith made mention of, or they can listen and hear quidelines towards solving mysteries, when they ask in prayer. Prayer is a means to an end, a communication with someone much MUCH greater than ourselves who knows 'all things'
True seekers avail themselves of all true sources, for when they connect up, it works and makes sense and they make progress, regardless if heathen deny or false scientists deny, or if they call the seeker and FINDER (like Newton) a quake, an alchemist, or a UNitarian...etc etc.
Name calling a true scientists does not negate his or her true science discoveries of ETERNAL TRUTHS created by the CREATOR.
Mystery solved
Christianity gets along with true Science as true Science was created by the CHRISTIAN GOD, the God of all, the CREATOR.

Thanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...

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Davidjay 
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Message 93 of 93 (811734)
06-11-2017 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Faith
06-10-2017 3:22 PM


Intellectual errors are heart errors
Faith, put your cookies on a lower shelf and make them more accessible and straight forward rather than wrapping them so descreetly.
Intellectual errors hardly ever happen or dont happen at all. The good Lord gave His people a brain (including those that are not His people and are not bright). They have the tools for discernment as well as being able to hear from the Holy Spirit day or night.
Lack of Intelligence or intellectual error happens only when someone is insincere or closed minded...... their 1Q etc is not involved.
People get what they deserve.. thats the Christian Principle and it applies in all circumstance.
If a person is dishonest intellectually they get deceptions and it is not their brains fault it is their heart's fault or their decisions fault.
Be more specific in your writings and more direct rather than excusing the 'willingly ignorant' and 'willingly disobedient' and 'willingly dumb and devoid'.
Those with a good heart get the heart and mind and atitude they deserve..
Ask and ye shall receive always applies
If any of you lack wisdom let him ask of the Lord and the Lord gives them willingly and liberally.... and helps them become creationists rather than atheists and evolutionists.
Mystery solved

Thanks to the webmasters HERE for allowing me to defeat atheists and evolutionists HERE, and show they have no math, no science backing them up and that they are totally dependant on semantics and luck and chance as their only support for their religion. Thanks again...

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