Yes, The Real The New Awesome Primary Thread

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but, as far as I can tell LaRouche is not running for president this year.I would like to keep this thread centered on the present campaigns, please.

Last nignt, when I watched CNN, some Cruz campaigner kept on calling Trump 'Liberal Trump'.Is being branded 'liberal' a bad thing in the US? I mean, even Cameron and Merkel and Trudeau are all very proud to be branded as 'liberals'. In Australia the Prime Minister is very liberal (Liberal Party and all), yet represents a conservative party. And he's proud to be branded as liberal.In most western countries being branded as 'liberals' are worn as a badge of honour. The centre ground. At least they're the opposite of fascists and communists. And proud of it. Why does the Cruz campaign think that a 'liberal' is a bad badge?Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Liberal is almost as bad as been Progressive.

In some States in the US, I guess. As in most of Africa to be progressive or liberal is seen to be a really bad, bad thing.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

When pandering to conservatives, 'liberal' is an epithet. Conversely, when pandering to liberals, 'conservative' is an epithet.My guess is that the definition of liberal and conservative differs considerably between countries and continents.--Percy

I think this started with Newt Gingrich or his advisors (or perhaps it was Reagan). They started playing a game of demonization, and "liberal" was one of the words that they set out to demonize.

Because they are Republicans.In this country a liberal is one concerned with social justice issues, enlightened regard for people's welfare and a tolerance of the differences in the human condition. A conservative is a religio-facist bigot. Ted Cruz is on the extreme side of the latter.

Gotta object to that. Not all conservatives are religio-fascist bigots. Not all conservatives are even religious or fascist. Some may even not be bigots.But the current crop running for office as Republicans are at least all fascists.

Before Reagan, back in the '60s I remember "bleeding heart liberals" was the epithet.

edited, a purely emotional response.Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

Let's raise the quality of debate a notch, shall we.Please, no replies to this message.

Oh. My bad.

It seems to me the more "conservative" someone is the more concerned they are with ramming their brand of beliefs and politics into your life.The more liberal someone is the more they are less likely to not like that.

Seems to me there was a time when the two sides could coexist with some mutual respect or at least friendly tolerance. Something changed, in the sixties I believe, that turned liberalism from a benign focus on do-goodism to a Marxist point of view, thanks to the Cultural Marxism that was growing in the universities. Feminism is one thing, Marxist feminism is something else. Etc. (ABE: I remember going to a meeting about gay rights where the audience was harangued by the speaker in an angrily baccusatory and threatening way, about how we are ALL "really" homosexuals" and how we have to see things his way or else. I considered myself a liberal in those days but I wanted to walk out, only I was intimidated into sitting it out. I was shaking when I left). And my experience of the left from that point on was that they were extremely aggressive about ramming their self-righteous views down everybody else's throat. Conservatism as we now experience it, grew in reaction against all that, starting with the Moral Majority. It used to represent a reasonable patriotism and a reasonable capitalism that could dialogue with the reasonable do-goodism of the liberal side. But thanks to the infiltration of Cultural Marxism and its Political Correctness, which is nothing but ramming leftism down our throats, the country has become polarized in a very unhealthy way. I don't see a way out of it myself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Faith goes on: wow! to think the SDS was so successful!! Mark Rudd & Tom Hayden must be grinning ear to ear.NOT.You would agree that white men using the 'n'-word is not politically correct, right? So maybe you have a stranger definition of PC? It seems, from you general posting record.Would you call FDR a Marxist?