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Author Topic:   This belief thing
NoNukes
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Message 41 of 162 (782691)
04-27-2016 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by jar
04-27-2016 11:25 AM


Re: Beliefs, Commentators and Apologists.
But despite the Apologists and Commentators, the actual writings still exist. Folk can go read the stories themselves. The different Canons do exist; there is no such thing as "The Bible".
There is, in fact, something pretty close to a de facto Bible. Close enough that I don't think the fact that there are different Canons is an insurmountable issue in most discussions with Fundamentalists or even in 90+ percent of the discussions on EvC. The KJV and a few translations that incorporate exactly the same books as the Bible pretty well constitute the text that is cited in the vast majority of discussions at EvC. Absent a visiting Jehovah Witness, Mormon or Catholic, essentially nobody here quotes a text that cannot be found in the KJV even if the translation is different. In only a few discussions to even those differences matter.
Of course no version of the Bible did existed at any time when Jesus, Paul, or Peter was alive. A fact that does not stop people from claiming that Jesus wrote the Bible in some way.
Note that it is now an extra-Biblical belief the determines how to interpret the Bible and not what is actually written or actually exists.
I do note that. Normally the excuse given is that you have to read the Bible 'spiritually' a phrase which almost always turns out to mean buy the doctrine or the agenda before you read.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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