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Author Topic:   The Science in Creationism
Dogmafood
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Message 162 of 986 (783375)
05-05-2016 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Dawn Bertot
05-05-2016 12:06 AM


Re: Show Me The Evidence
All of the evidence is not consistent with natural causes,
I wonder if you could provide an example of something that is not designed so that we could compare the rest of the universe to it.

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Dogmafood
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Message 168 of 986 (783382)
05-05-2016 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Dawn Bertot
05-05-2016 8:41 AM


A pile of rocks
Yes
A pile of rocks that has fallen randomly off the side of a hill
Is it just the pile of rocks that is lacking design? What about the hill that they fell from or the gravity that pulled them down? How can I distinguish between a random pile of rocks and a designed pile of rocks?

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Dogmafood
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Message 383 of 986 (783737)
05-08-2016 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Dawn Bertot
05-05-2016 9:02 AM


Re: A pile of rocks
Unlike the intricacy of the eye it is clear to any REASONABLE person
Meaning a Pearson using reason the rocks were a random act
I appreciate that you have your hands full.
quote:
Design
2. purpose, planning, or intention that exists or is thought to exist behind an action, fact, or material object.
A pile of rocks at the bottom of a hill has no design but what if they fall down and create a dam that forms a lake that grows a fish that feeds thousands? If a pile of rocks has no design then neither does a plague or a flood or a volcano. A hail stone has no design unless it falls on the head of your enemy?
The problem with inferring design of the universe by comparing it to the designs of humans is that humans have learned how to design things by looking at the way that the universe works. The human race will never design anything that is not simply a directed application of the forces that we find in nature.
It should be clear to any reasonable person that inferring design of the universe because we can design things that look similar to what we find in the universe is faulty reasoning. A pyramid is the same shape as a pile of rocks and mug holds liquid the same way that a puddle does. Airplanes look like birds and robots can be made to walk like a human.

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Dogmafood
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Message 406 of 986 (783777)
05-08-2016 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 405 by Dr Adequate
05-08-2016 4:37 PM


Re: Show Me The Evidence
Strange, isn't it, that all the understanding of science should be on your side, and all the actual scientific achievement on the other?
Not just strange but miraculous.

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Dogmafood
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Message 933 of 986 (784783)
05-23-2016 8:46 AM


quote:
Lord, Thou hast made this world below the shadow of a dream,
An', taught by time, I tak' it so--exceptin' always Steam.
From coupler-flange to spindle-guide I see Thy Hand, O God--
Predestination in the stride o' yon connectin'-rod.
Rudyard Kipling

  
Dogmafood
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Message 984 of 986 (785227)
05-30-2016 10:32 PM


Summation of the Investigation Into the Use of Science in Creationism
Nope.
Edited by ProtoTypical, : No reason given.

  
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