Since the exchange with Coyote on the Glenn Morton thread was declared off topic I thought maybe I could bring it over here, although it's really also off-topic here. Maybe it will have the virtue at least of not precipitating much of a discussion.
Coyote had said this in
Message 404 on that thread:
YECs attempt to explain the physical world in terms of scripture, but the facts don't support that explanation. That leads to enormous stretches of interpretation, misinterpretation of facts, ignoring facts that run contrary to belief, in some cases making up facts, quote mining, and other problems.
I objected that he needed to support such a list of accusations, and in
Message 406 he made the familiar statement that
one prime example is that YECs can't accept the results of a dozen or more different forms of dating that all agree, and all point to the same conclusion--an old earth.
And all I really want to say, that I didn't get to say on the other thread, is that I agree. That is true. This IS a case where Coyote is right that it is the Bible that determines the YEC's position on dating. The Bible gives historical markers that I believe set the Flood around 4500 years ago, give or take a few hundred years, and that is why I reject scientific dating methods.
But dating is Coyote's constant refrain. When he made that general accusation quoted above, "enormous stretches of interpretation, misinterpretation of facts, ignoring facts that run contrary to belief, in some cases making up facts, quote mining, and other problems" he clearly includes many other issues, and I still have to ask him to support these.
Maybe this is not the thread for it. Mostly I just wanted to say I agree that it is the Biblical framework that leads me to reject scientific dating methods. Beyond that I still claim to base my arguments on what I understand of the physical facts and not on the Bible.
As for the "assumptions" scientific dating is based on, I just don't get into dating issues at all if I can help it. The Bible pre-empts them and I haven't spent time trying to understand them for that reason.
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