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Lomu
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Message 16 of 70 (790116)
08-25-2016 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Pressie
08-25-2016 7:35 AM


Far out.

It's sad to see that you post an honest question and this is the kind of response I get; suffice to say Pressie that I'll not be bothering to respond to any of your posts in the future. PS- the derogative term you're looking for is "Seppo".

This is the forum link in question:

http://hotcopper.com.au/...ion-rather-than-evolution.2830412

It's an investment forum I'm a member of; a question was posed which was outside the scope of that forum so I thought I'd turn it over to the members here as EVC forums are (IMO) the best place on the web for this type of discussion.

Now- if you really want to know. I have my degree in Applied Physics but I haven't worked in a lab for quite some time. I'm now helping out my brother in his stonemasonry business- he needs people, I can do the work and (oddly enough) it pays better. I haven't been here for two days as I've been taking care of my kids while my wife attends court due to the mistreatment of my two daughters by my father-in-law.

Hope you're real proud of yourself.

Mods- unless there's any valid reason, I think it's best that this thread now be closed due to this unwarranted and disgusting attack upon myself.


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edge
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Message 17 of 70 (790120)
08-25-2016 8:42 PM
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08-25-2016 5:42 PM


Mods- unless there's any valid reason, I think it's best that this thread now be closed due to this unwarranted and disgusting attack upon myself.

Am I missing something on this thread?
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Pressie
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Message 18 of 70 (790133)
08-26-2016 5:39 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Lomu
08-25-2016 5:42 PM


Nope. Sepo.

1. a name given to Americans that talk alot of shit, have monstrous horse teeth and complain about everything.

From http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sepo


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Theodoric
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Message 19 of 70 (790142)
08-26-2016 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Pressie
08-26-2016 5:39 AM


His quibbling over the spelling did not help his defense.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 20 of 70 (790147)
08-26-2016 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Theodoric
08-26-2016 12:58 PM


His quibbling over the spelling did not help his defense.

What exactly is it that Lomu needs to defend? You're both being paranoid and it's weirdly comical.

Oh, and Urban Dictionary is hardly a primary source for the spelling of a word


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Theodoric
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Message 21 of 70 (790152)
08-26-2016 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Genomicus
08-26-2016 2:18 PM


Years of putting up with creationist trolls has many of us leery. The things pointed out are hallmarks of a sockpuppet.
That Lomu felt the need to push his bonafides by quibbling about the spelling of the word is a worrying sign for me. I don't know or care how it is spelled. The need to correct Pressie is what is concerning.

Been down the road of sockpuppets around here for a ling time. Being cautious is not uncalled for. That is called himself a scientist just because he claims a degree in a scientific field is huge red flag. It is a classic right wing christian tactic.

Now that this has been explained lets move on.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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NoNukes
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Message 22 of 70 (790170)
08-26-2016 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Genomicus
08-26-2016 2:18 PM


What exactly is it that Lomu needs to defend? You're both being paranoid and it's weirdly comical.

I have to admit to having some doubts about Lomu, primarily because of his claimed inability to deal with a completely ridiculous article. My eyes were rolling into the back of my head about three sentences in.

But quite frankly, I don't have any problem with what a creationist would do with my honest response to the questions Lomu asked. Maybe the article will be improved to something more fun to rebut. On the other hand, I imagine that if I was a creationist trolling EvC, I would be quite pleased if I received a hostile, suspicious response to questions that I could assert were harmless. I could then complete my assignment by writing about the frothing paranoids I encountered when I asked simple questions.


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Pressie
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Message 23 of 70 (790292)
08-29-2016 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Lomu
08-22-2016 11:14 PM


Re: Which Way To Go?
This was it for me.

Lomu writes:

I'm definitely on the side of a naturalistic view...

That means that Lomu is a YEC pretending to be something else.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Pressie
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Message 24 of 70 (790294)
08-29-2016 7:40 AM
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08-26-2016 4:36 PM


Theodoric writes:

Been down the road of sockpuppets around here for a ling time. Being cautious is not uncalled for. That is called himself a scientist just because he claims a degree in a scientific field is huge red flag.

Yip.
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Coyote
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Message 25 of 70 (790565)
08-31-2016 11:23 PM


3.7-billion-year-old fossils may be the oldest signs of life on Earth
3.7-billion-year-old fossils may be the oldest signs of life on Earth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...est-signs-of-life-on-earth

Scientists probing a newly exposed, formerly snow-covered outcropping in Greenland claim they have discovered the oldest fossils ever seen, the remnants of microbial mats that lived 3.7 billion years ago.

More...

Of course, creationists--without a shred of evidence--will claim the dating is wrong, its based on assumptions, or "were you there?"

They must dread reading the news in the morning, as more and more each day the evidence contradicts their dogma and scripture.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

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If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

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Message 26 of 70 (790568)
09-01-2016 2:53 AM
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08-31-2016 11:23 PM


Re: 3.7-billion-year-old fossils may be the oldest signs of life on Earth
They must dread reading the news in the morning, as more and more each day the evidence contradicts their dogma and scripture.

No, I just feel sorry for you all because you've fallen for the Big Lie. I expect the world to contradict scripture, scripture tells me that it will and why, although I must admit I'm surprised at how insistently it is contradicted. By now you'd think I'd no longer be surprised by it.


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Message 27 of 70 (790570)
09-01-2016 3:45 AM
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09-01-2016 2:53 AM


Re: 3.7-billion-year-old fossils may be the oldest signs of life on Earth
No, I just feel sorry for you all because you've fallen for the Big Lie.

Funnily enough, I feel sorry for you for the exact same reason. 🙄

I expect the world to contradict scripture, scripture tells me that it will and why, although I must admit I'm surprised at how insistently it is contradicted.

It really wouldn't take much foresight, if you are composing a book of nonsense that you want people to believe, to realise you need to include some counter-measures against disbelief.


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Boof
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Message 28 of 70 (790572)
09-01-2016 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Faith
09-01-2016 2:53 AM


Re: 3.7-billion-year-old fossils may be the oldest signs of life on Earth
Faith writes:

No, I just feel sorry for you all because you've fallen for the Big Lie. I expect the world to contradict scripture...

Wow, I have never seen a creationist admit so readily that their God is a liar. And so casually accepting of it!


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Pressie
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Message 29 of 70 (790574)
09-01-2016 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Boof
09-01-2016 6:18 AM


Re: 3.7-billion-year-old fossils may be the oldest signs of life on Earth
Yeah, Faith expects reality to contradict his/her favourite interpretations of his/her favourite holy scriptures. So, I guess that Faith doesn't believe much of Protestant or Catholic or Eastern Orthodox or Jewish Bibles.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Theodoric
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Message 30 of 70 (790581)
09-01-2016 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Lomu
08-25-2016 5:42 PM


So you are claiming you are not just some troll. How about you contribute to your own thread?
You have made no responses discussing your OP. You point to another forum so you must have a basic clue as to how forums work.
Genomicus, Pressie and Riggormortis have made substantial replies to your OP, how about having the decency to address and respond to their points.

Unless....


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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