Because we thought it mattered. But we didn't go to any trouble, we just looked at the fake stuff the Left came up with and saw the truth.
Really?
What about
this?
Or
this?
Or
this?
Or
this
Let's not forget
Keyes vs Bowen from Alan Keyes
They all lost, and the losers generally had to pay the bill. The cost to Obama's legal team?
Minimal since the cases were so easy
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Roger West, an assistant US attorney in the central district of California, represented the government in a lawsuit brought by Taitz on behalf of perennial presidential candidate Alan Keyes, asking the court to require that Obama prove he is a natural-born citizen. The case has dragged on for more than a year, mostly because Taitz, a graduate of an online, unaccredited law school, failed to serve the defendants. Judge David O. Carter dismissed the suit in October for a host of reasons, but Taitz has appealed. Yet West says that far from bleeding his office, Taitz and her co-counsel Gary Kreep have assembled such a weak case that he hasn't had to spend much time on it. "I filed one motion that didn't take too long, we've had two hearings and that's it," he says. "It's not like we've devoted some sort of task force to this."
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Or consider a case filed by one of the most prolific birther litigants, Philip J. Berg, that went all the way up to the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. In November the court dismissed the appeal and ordered Berg to pay the legal costs for the defendants, which included the Federal Election Commission. Here was the government's big chance to recoup its millions. But when the FEC submitted its bill, the grand total came to $20.40.
The right has spent/lost probably hundreds of thousands of pounds - between 5 and 10 years of labour for an average US citizen. As a conservative estimate. Don't tell me that isn't much.
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In fact, the plaintiffs may be spending far more time and money on these cases than Obama or the government is, in part because of their failure to abide by basic court procedures. In one of the Georgia cases Ausprung handled, a federal judge sanctioned Taitz in October for $20,000 for, among other things, pursuing a case long after a judge had dismissed it and her own client had discharged her. Taitz has refused to pay the fine.
Berg v. Obama - the judge described this as 'frivolous and not worthy of discussion'
Essek v. Obama - lack of subject matter jurisdiction
Kerchner v. Obama - no standing, 'frivolous'
Barnett v. Obama - no standing
Hollister v. Soetoro - 'a waste of time', the case was filed with 'improper purpose such as to harass'
Cook v. Good
Rhodes v. Macdonald - frivolous abuse of judicial process - 'The Court finds that counsel's conduct was willful and not merely negligent. It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better. She owed a duty to follow the rules and to respect the Court. Counsel's pattern of conduct conclusively establishes that she did not mistakenly violate a provision of law. She knowingly violated Rule 11. Her response to the Court's show cause order is breathtaking in its arrogance and borders on delusional. She expresses no contrition or regret regarding her misconduct. To the contrary, she continues her baseless attacks on the Court' - $20,000 fine
Taitz v. Obama - "The Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her"
Taitz v. Astrue - "either toying with the Court or displaying her own stupidity There is no logical explanation she can provide as to why she is now wasting the Court’s time, as well as the staff’s time"
Taitz v. Ruemmler - Taitz is on some kind of "Sisyphean quest"
Archibald v. U.S. Department of Justice
Sibley v. Obama
Martin v. Lingle - "notoriously vexatious and vindictive litigator who has long abused the American legal system" also Martin had no "direct and tangible interest in the record"
Donofrio v. Wells
Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz
Keyes v. Bowen
Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana
Taitz v. Fuddy
Alabama primary ballot challenge- several of these, all failed
Alaska primary ballot challenge - the complaint here is nice and racist: "As Barack Hussein Obama II is of the 'mulatto' race, his status of citizenship is founded upon the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Before the [purported] ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, the race of 'Negro' or 'mulatto' had no standing to be citizens of the United States under the United States Constitution"
Arizona primary ballot challenge - judge stated 'President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution'
California ballot challenge - fined $4,000 for failing to meet basic legal requirements
Florida primary ballot challenge
Georgia primary ballot challenge - The Court finds the testimony of the witnesses, as well as the exhibits tendered, to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support plaintiffs’ allegations
Illinois primary ballot challenge - three cases, all failed.
Indiana primary ballot challenge
Mississippi primary ballot challenge
New Hampshire primary ballot challenge - "folly"
New Jersey primary ballot challenge - "The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well-intentioned, has no merit in law"
Pennsylvania primary ballot challenge
South Dakota primary ballot challenge - lack of jurisdiction
Illinois general election challenge - dismissed on the grounds it was based on "an incorrect legal interpretation of what constitutes a 'natural born citizen'"
Indiana general election challenge - "circus show"
Kansas general election challenge - plaintiff had to be escorted away by police
Mississippi general election challenge
New York general election challenge - ""If the complaint in this action was a movie script, it would be entitled 'The Manchurian Candidate Meets The Da Vinci Code" - fined
$177,000Liberty Legal Foundation v. National Democratic Party - sanctioned because Liberty Legal Foundation "knew or reasonably should have known that the claims in this case had no basis in law"
Tisdale v. Obama - dismissed with prejudice
Sibley v. D.C. Board of Elections and Ethics
Daniels v. Ohio Secretary of State
Epperly v. Obama
House v. Obama
Begay v. Obama - a convicted child abuser filed this one from prison!
Paige v. Condos - The court said they were "presented with a radically insufficient basis on which to issue a temporary or even a preliminary injunction"
McInnish v. Bennett
Grinols v. Obama
And that's not including all the cases where people engaged in criminal acts because of their outrage:
Walter Fitzpatrick III and Darren Huff - firearms and disturbing the peace related charges
Lt. Colonel Terrence Lee Lakin - court martialled for refusal to obey orders, dismissed from the army, sentenced to imprisonment and later said it was all a massive mistake and he withdrew his case
Theresa Cao - disrupting Congress
There was also a bunch of "citizen grand juries" that formed.
If you think that required no 'trouble' to do, I should point out the amount of work it took just to write that list out for you was fairly considerable.
What did the left do? They said "No, he was born an American citizen, this is a waste of time and money". They only bothered to say this because of the MASSIVE fuss the right was making. Woop, big effort there.
We aren't friends any more, Mod, if you think we need more Muslims.
I don't think that, as I don't think Obama is a Muslim. I think he is a Christian. And so you might more realistically interpret my words as saying 'We need more Christians' but actually I don't think that, we need less religious people in office. My point was that the whole 'stealth Muslim' thing is only persuasive to people that FEAR Muslims, everybody else takes people based on who they are and what they do.
I say all these things knowing that eventually I'll be shown to be right
You'll be vindicated someday, eh? Keep believing!
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