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vimesey
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Message 31 of 187 (794491)
11-16-2016 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by New Cat's Eye
11-16-2016 12:29 PM


Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
On the other hand, people are going to have to start taking responsibility for themselves rather than relying on big brother to take care of them.
I don't have much to add to this in terms of detail, and I know there's a debate to be had on the details. But as someone who lives in a country, where there's a healthcare service that's free at the point of delivery (barring some minor charges for prescriptions etc, and paying for cosmetic stuff), I'm not sure I recognise the big brother reference.
We took a decision to provide automatic healthcare for all, and get everyone to pay some tax to fund it. That's not really symptomatic of a nightmarish, Orwellian dystopia. It's pretty cool really. And we're not even slightly commie 😉

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 36 of 187 (794497)
11-16-2016 3:50 PM
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11-16-2016 3:25 PM


Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
Still not a dystopia though.
I don't think that the government being in charge of running something, in and of itself, makes it undesirable. Especially when we vote the government in and out of power every so often.

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vimesey
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Message 42 of 187 (794504)
11-16-2016 4:07 PM
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11-16-2016 3:58 PM


Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
Often, yes - and when this is the case, this is often as much a reason for improving the public service, as for privatising it.
Against that, public services benefit from being available to all, fair, and not at risk of corporate insolvency whilst being relied upon by people.
So it's a balance. As I said, in and of itself, something being provided by the government doesn't make it bad - you always need to balance the pros and cons.

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vimesey
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Message 169 of 187 (803156)
03-24-2017 6:08 PM


Shock news - it turns out Trump did once tell the truth !
If you can't make a deal with a politician, then there's certainly something wrong with you - you're not very good.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

  
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