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Diomedes
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Message 1486 of 1537 (822630)
10-30-2017 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1483 by Tanypteryx
10-30-2017 11:25 AM


Re: First indictments from Mueller investigation


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Message 1487 of 1537 (822645)
10-30-2017 5:15 PM


Indictments
Well, with all the indictments, the only observation I can make is that Trump has been practicing with the color orange.
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Message 1488 of 1537 (822647)
10-30-2017 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1487 by ramoss
10-30-2017 5:15 PM


Re: Indictments
Well, with all the indictments, the only observation I can make is that Trump has been practicing with the color orange.

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Message 1489 of 1537 (823159)
11-06-2017 3:40 PM


Jeff Flake Responds
Jeff Flake (Republican Senator from Arizona), who announced a couple weeks ago that he would not be running for another term because he could not be party to the Trump's ugly politics, has written an editorial in today's New York Times (Jeff Flake: In a Democracy, There Can Be No Bystanders) containing his reaction to the overwhelming response to his resignation speech. A few excerpts:

quote:
By the electronic bushel, in thousands of calls and letters, reactions have poured into my office in the past week since I spoke on the Senate floor and announced that I would not be running for another term, and detailing the reasons for my decision. A deeply personal outpouring, the scale of which has stunned and humbled me.

Each letter is distinctive, but all are plaintive, anguished, deeply engaged and urgent. They all have in common a feeling of distress that the country has taken a sudden and caustic turn, that we have a president who seems to take pleasure in dividing us. A president who is careless with the position that has become known in the past century as “leader of the free world,” and that our institutions and maybe even our liberty are in peril as a consequence. Please, the letter writers all said. Don’t stop speaking out. I’M COUNTING ON IT, one person wrote.
...
These writers despair not just for the chaos emanating from the White House, but for the moral vandalism that has been set loose in our culture, as well as the seeming disregard for the institutions of American democracy. The damage to our democracy seems to come daily now, most recently with the president’s venting late last week that if he had his way, he would hijack the American justice system to conduct political prosecutions — a practice that only happens in the very worst places on earth. And as this behavior continues, it is not just our politics being disfigured, but the American sense of well-being and time-honored notions of the common good.


--Percy


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Message 1490 of 1537 (823244)
11-08-2017 12:26 AM
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11-06-2017 3:40 PM


Each letter is distinctive, but all are plaintive, anguished, deeply engaged and urgent. They all have in common a feeling of distress that the country has taken a sudden and caustic turn, that we have a president who seems to take pleasure in dividing us.

And a huge section of the country is absolutely okay with that. The Republican support for this buffoon is in the mid to high 80s in every single poll. We will soon get to see if Trump has long or short coattails. His influence did not have the desired effect in either Virginia or in the Senate race in Alabama.


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Message 1491 of 1537 (823247)
11-08-2017 6:14 AM
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11-08-2017 12:26 AM


NN writes:

His influence did not have the desired effect in either Virginia or in the Senate race in Alabama.

But the Alabama results show that an even more extreme right wing nutcase than what Trump supported was acceptable.


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Message 1492 of 1537 (824228)
11-25-2017 1:50 AM


Trump again lying for no particular reason?
Trump claims that he told turned down an offer from Time Magazine to be the man of the year:

quote:
President Donald Trump tweeted Friday that he turned down a potential offer to be TIME Magazine's coveted "Person of the Year" after, Trump says, the magazine told him he would "probably" be given the honors.

Of course, the magazine denies any such offer:

quote:
The magazine issued a statement disputing the President's account.
"The President is incorrect about how we choose Person of the Year. TIME does not comment on our choice until publication, which is December 6," a spokeswoman told CNN.

quote:
Time Inc.'s chief content officer, Alan Murray, later said the President's tweet didn't have "a speck of truth."
"Amazing. Not a speck of truth here—Trump tweets he 'took a pass' at being named TIME's person of the year," Murray tweeted, along with an article about the incident.

Source for the above quotes is CNN

http://www.cnn.com/...-donald-trump-time-magazine/index.html

Edited by Admin, : Fix last quote.


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I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

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Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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Message 1493 of 1537 (824230)
11-25-2017 4:06 AM
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11-25-2017 1:50 AM


Re: Trump again lying for no particular reason?
Of course there is a reason. It will be announced soon and Trump is sure that it won’t be him. So he has to try to pretend that he turned it down. It’s exactly the sort of thing he would do.
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Message 1494 of 1537 (824277)
11-25-2017 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1493 by PaulK
11-25-2017 4:06 AM


Re: Trump again lying for no particular reason?
I think there's a Turd of the Year position still open somewhere.
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Message 1495 of 1537 (824278)
11-25-2017 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1489 by Percy
11-06-2017 3:40 PM


Re: Jeff Flake Responds
Jeff Flake (Republican Senator from Arizona), who announced a couple weeks ago that he would not be running for another term because he could not be party to the Trump's ugly politics,...

I don't know if the following is a good analysis of things, but...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

Choose the SENATE box (if needed, it seems to be the default), and then click on the TRUMP SCORE column header to sort.

This shows the various Senator's support for Trump positions. Republicans range from quite a few at 96.2% down to Susan M. Collins at 80.8%. Jeff Flake is at 90.0% and Bob Corker is at 86.3%. BTW, John McCain is at 84.0%.

Democrats/Independents ranged from 53.8% to 9.6%. Bernard Sanders is at 15.4% and Elizabeth Warren is at 11.5%.

I guess that ugly politics and (possibly) ugly policy might not be the same. To their (dubious) credit, both Flake and Corker do come in in the bottom 10 for Republican Senator support for Trump policy positions.

Moose

Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add the "(... default)".


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Message 1496 of 1537 (824456)
11-29-2017 7:36 AM


Trump retweets islamophobic videos from British Far right group
Just when you thought this guy couldn't be any more of a complete imbecile...

"Donald Trump's Twitter account has retweeted three inflammatory videos from a British far-right group."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Edited by Heathen, : No reason given.


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Message 1497 of 1537 (824473)
11-29-2017 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1496 by Heathen
11-29-2017 7:36 AM


Re: Trump retweets islamophobic videos from British Far right group
Snopes confirmed that at least one of the videos was fake news.

Why does Trump wish to diminish his own credibility? Or is it that he is again simply playing to his base?


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Message 1498 of 1537 (824475)
11-29-2017 12:12 PM
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11-29-2017 11:39 AM


Re: Trump retweets islamophobic videos from British Far right group
Trump just sees something he likes and retweets it. Thinking about it appears not to be in his toolkit.
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Message 1499 of 1537 (824477)
11-29-2017 1:07 PM
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11-29-2017 11:39 AM


Re: Trump retweets islamophobic videos from British Far right group
The man's a moron. A bonafide idiot. There's no strategy or thought involved here.

Something has to be done about him. Unfortunately your politicians don't seem to have any interest in saving your country from this fuckwit.


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Message 1500 of 1537 (824478)
11-29-2017 1:53 PM
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11-29-2017 1:07 PM


Re: Trump retweets islamophobic videos from British Far right group
Actually the US is safer with him as President than we would be if he was removed from the office.

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