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Theodoric
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Message 571 of 1202 (801729)
03-09-2017 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 570 by jar
03-09-2017 6:53 AM


Re: Today we get a twofer.
quote:
China has granted preliminary approval to 38 new Trump-related trademarks as President Trump's family works to develop a series of branded products in the country, including hotel chains, escort services and insurance.

http://thehill.com/...ry-approval-to-38-new-trump-trademarks

Yes, Trump branded escort services. Nothing says Presidential quite like an escort service. Massage Parlors too?
The religious right that supports him is morally bankrupt.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 572 of 1202 (801749)
03-09-2017 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 568 by Phat
03-08-2017 3:35 AM


Re: From Today's Scientific American
Phat writes:

The bright spot in all this is that the rest of the world can get along just fine without the US and in fact will be happy to see the US bow out as a developed Nation and remain on the sidelines.

How is that a bright spot?

Ding-Dong! The witch is dead.
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Phat
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Message 573 of 1202 (801770)
03-09-2017 2:14 PM
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03-08-2017 7:03 AM


Re: From Today's Scientific American
And you think that we would not fight becoming a class of exploited workers?

If necessary we will become the new terrorists and blow their stuff up for a change.

The US will never play second fiddle to any other class of people or nation. After all, they fought for years for equal pay. We too will insist on it.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Phat
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Message 574 of 1202 (801771)
03-09-2017 2:16 PM
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03-09-2017 12:13 PM


If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
Ding-Dong! The witch is dead.
You are talking about all of us. If you think this witch will die without a fight, keep in mind that we have the weapons of mass destruction and, given the option of servanthood or death, we will take the planet down with us.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 575 of 1202 (801772)
03-09-2017 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 573 by Phat
03-09-2017 2:14 PM


Re: From Today's Scientific American
And you think that we would not fight becoming a class of exploited workers?

quote:
Declaration of Independence

... Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. ...


With what I see on the ground, and how far this administration is pushing the limits, it could be sooner rather than later.

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jar
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Message 576 of 1202 (801774)
03-09-2017 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 573 by Phat
03-09-2017 2:14 PM


Re: From Today's Scientific American
Phat writes:

And you think that we would not fight becoming a class of exploited workers?

Actually I think that the US workers would not only NOT fight it, I think they will work to make it a fact.

They elected Donald Trump didn't they?

Phat writes:

If necessary we will become the new terrorists and blow their stuff up for a change.

Yup, very possible. But again the evidence shows that they will most likely blow up their own cities and trash the stores and kill each other.

Phat writes:

The US will never play second fiddle to any other class of people or nation. After all, they fought for years for equal pay. We too will insist on it.

Yet who is President?


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jar
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Message 577 of 1202 (801779)
03-09-2017 3:09 PM


Wasington State joins Hawaii in suing the Trump Administration.
Washington State has joined with Hawaii to oppose the All New Improved Trump Immigration nonsense.
source

An unconstitutional Religious test by any other name still stinks to high heaven.

Edited by jar, : appalin spallin


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ringo
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Message 578 of 1202 (801910)
03-10-2017 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 574 by Phat
03-09-2017 2:16 PM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
Phat writes:

You are talking about all of us.


I'm talking about all of YOU. The rest of US would heave a sigh of relief.

Phat writes:

If you think this witch will die without a fight, keep in mind that we have the weapons of mass destruction and, given the option of servanthood or death, we will take the planet down with us.


Nice. That's what "greatness" means to you?
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Phat
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Message 579 of 1202 (801917)
03-10-2017 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 578 by ringo
03-10-2017 10:41 AM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
ringo writes:

Nice. That's what "greatness" means to you?

No. I realize its wrong thinking. Jesus would likely advise us to surrender our pride and let the crowd pass us by. I'm talking out of my basest nature. I've earned my spot in line and I won't simply let the masses ahead of me. We might not be the best and the brightest, but we sure as heck are the most powerful. At one time, our parents lived in the most prosperous country and we believe its our birthright to keep that legacy.

If we lose our national pride, we will simply be a future gardner for some foreigner.
Its a lot easier to be a bully than a patsy.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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ringo
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Message 580 of 1202 (801918)
03-10-2017 11:38 AM
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03-10-2017 11:31 AM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
Phat writes:

We might not be the best and the brightest, but we sure as heck are the most powerful.


Nope. You're not.

Phat writes:

At one time, our parents lived in the most prosperous country and we believe its our birthright to keep that legacy.


Your birthright is not just "prosperity".
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Phat
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Message 581 of 1202 (801922)
03-10-2017 11:53 AM
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03-10-2017 11:38 AM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
ring writes:

Your birthright is not just "prosperity".

I know...You are going to bring up responsibility again.

Sorry about my rant. Its irrational. I explained my feelings about it here.

This stuff hurts. You are asking a country whose dreams are unfulfilled to turn the other cheek. Now I understand how Germans felt before Hitler. Their once great empire was gone.
They owed money. Some clown from reality TV promised to make them great again.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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ringo
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Message 582 of 1202 (801923)
03-10-2017 12:02 PM
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03-10-2017 11:53 AM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
Phat writes:

You are asking a country whose dreams are unfulfilled to turn the other cheek.


Who else can fulfil your dreams for you?
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jar
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Message 583 of 1202 (801924)
03-10-2017 12:02 PM
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03-10-2017 11:53 AM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
You don't seem to understand Phat.

There is no need to act like Hitler. The people who actually control those weapons you talk about will benefit. They will get richer. The American citizens will get jobs. Sure the pay will not be enough to live on and they will not get the healthcare common in all the other developed nations but they really have no power.

The politicians and business owners will do great. The military will get paid and new play toys. But big war is bad for business so sorry Charlie, you don't get the worm.

You don't get to have a say in what happens elsewhere.


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Phat
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Message 584 of 1202 (801925)
03-10-2017 12:10 PM
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03-10-2017 12:02 PM


Re: If You dont Let Us Be Great Again, Nobody Else Will Get To Be Great Either
So once again the rich win. Trump must be lying. There is no plan to help the middle class. Obama had a better one. So now my anger is directed at the wealthy people. Even though that is what I once aspired to be. I think I'm going neurotic.....

jar writes:

You don't get to have a say in what happens elsewhere.

Thanks for that bit of insight...Now I think I understand the extreme religious right. We may not get a say, but our God will make us great again...after all, He loves us...the leftists are the enemy and will burn in hell forever....

Lets see...rich+leftist=George Soros!! Now I have Faith figured out!!

Man I need some meds!

Edited by Phat, : added jabberwocky


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 585 of 1202 (802007)
03-11-2017 8:21 AM


GOP Healthcare Bill to Reduce Taxes on the Rich
The GOP healthcare bill now working its way through the House would reduce taxes on the rich by billions of dollars per year. Repealed would be the 3.8% tax on capital gains, and the 0.9% Medicare surcharge. These taxes apply only to those making more than $200,000/year, or $250,000/year filing jointly. Income from these taxes were used to help fund the Affordable Care Act.

Source: New York Times

--Percy


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