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vimesey
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Message 916 of 1202 (814600)
07-11-2017 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 915 by NoNukes
07-11-2017 4:28 AM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
"OK, I admit, I tried to kill him, but my gun jammed and didn't fire, so we're all good, right ?"

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Diomedes
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Message 917 of 1202 (814627)
07-11-2017 9:35 AM
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07-11-2017 3:50 AM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
And apparently, there might be emails that could be quite damning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...n/5963e8eee9b69b7071abcb06

quote:
Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

Well this should be interesting. It's starting to read like a Robert Ludlum novel.


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Chiroptera
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Message 918 of 1202 (814630)
07-11-2017 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 917 by Diomedes
07-11-2017 9:35 AM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
And apparently, there might be emails that could be quite damning:

That would be...ironic.


Patriotism is the excuse that countries give to themselves for their failures. – Stephen Marche

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ringo
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Message 919 of 1202 (814645)
07-11-2017 12:24 PM
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07-11-2017 5:18 AM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
vimesey writes:

"OK, I admit, I tried to kill him, but my gun jammed and didn't fire, so we're all good, right ?"


Not guilty by reason of incompetence.
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vimesey
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Message 920 of 1202 (814647)
07-11-2017 12:39 PM
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07-11-2017 12:24 PM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
My go-to defence.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Diomedes
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Message 921 of 1202 (814648)
07-11-2017 12:52 PM
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07-11-2017 12:24 PM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
Not guilty by reason of incompetence.

Well that explains why most politicians seldom get convicted.
As the comedian Ron White likes to say 'you can't fix stupid'.


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1.61803
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Message 922 of 1202 (814650)
07-11-2017 1:28 PM


Wait...what?????
Ok....We did not meet with Russians.
email released stating they met
Ok...We met but I it was not about campaign
email released it was about anti Hillary campaign info..
Ok it was about campaign anti Hillary info but there was none to be had.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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PaulK
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Message 923 of 1202 (814652)
07-11-2017 1:41 PM
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07-11-2017 1:28 PM


Re: Wait...what?????
Well the Russian lawyer insists that she didn't offer anything about Hilary Clinton.

The emails are somewhat dodgy - supposedly the information would come from the "Crown Prosecutor" of Russia - a non existent post.

But it is clear that the Trump campaign were offered help that supposedly came from the Russian government and were happy to accept.

Donald Trump Jr emails show Russia communication


...Trump Jr wasn't just open to Russian help, he "loved" it.

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NoNukes
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Message 924 of 1202 (814656)
07-11-2017 2:22 PM
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07-11-2017 12:39 PM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
My go-to defence.

Unfortunately, while incompetence may result in you not being charged with murder, it cannot prevent you from being convicted of inchoate offenses like attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder.

Going to check on the Fox spin on this today.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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1.61803
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Message 925 of 1202 (814663)
07-11-2017 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 923 by PaulK
07-11-2017 1:41 PM


Re: Wait...what?????
Hi Paul,

Trump
Very first Twitters about Hillary emails began the same day after the meeting on
06 Jun 2016. Very odd indeed.

https://twitter.com/...donaldtrump/status/741007091947556864


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 926 of 1202 (814665)
07-11-2017 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 924 by NoNukes
07-11-2017 2:22 PM


Re: Donald Trump jr met the Russians
Word on the street is Hannity is blaming Obama for letting the Russian lawyer into the country. Yep it was a Obama set up.
Thanks Obama.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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NoNukes
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Message 927 of 1202 (814775)
07-12-2017 7:53 PM


Trump claims Russians preferred Hillary for President
Trump's on a roll. More stuff said that simply does not jibe with reality.

quote:
President Trump said Wednesday that Russian President Vladimir Putin would have preferred Hillary Clinton as U.S. president instead of himself.

In an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network's Pat Robertson, the president said that Russia would have benefited from a Clinton victory because she would weaken the military and drive up energy prices.


Edited by NoNukes, : Grr, Misused apostrophe again...


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


    
PaulK
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Message 928 of 1202 (814825)
07-13-2017 4:09 AM
Reply to: Message 925 by 1.61803
07-11-2017 3:52 PM


Re: Wait...what?????
Even more interesting:


Four days after the first email from Goldstone to Trump Jr about the incriminating information the Russia government was said to have about Mrs Clinton, candidate Trump promised to give a "major speech" the following week discussing "all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons", including Mrs Clinton's alleged misdeeds while serving as secretary of state.

...

That speech, originally announced for the Monday after the Trump camp's New York meeting with Veselnitskaya, never took place.

BBC


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jar
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Message 929 of 1202 (814831)
07-13-2017 6:55 AM
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07-13-2017 4:09 AM


Re: Wait...what?????
As I said in a post above, it will likely come down to "What did the President know and when did he know it?"

If candidate Trump knew that little Trump and Trump's Minions were going to meet with a Russian representative and that Russia would give them dirt on candidate Clinton then it is very possible that the High Crimes and Misdemeanors standards were reached.

If we end up with President Pence would his Secret Service code name be PP?

PP is coming.

PP is on the move.

PP is streaming "I am curious yellow".


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1.61803
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Message 930 of 1202 (814926)
07-13-2017 5:34 PM
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07-13-2017 4:09 AM


Re: Wait...what?????
Never in the annals of our history have so few been so scrutinized.

The Fed is going to find the shit stains of the shit stains of the shit upon the thread that leads from the WH to the Kremlin.

Let me be clear the FBI has beef.
Even if the Cheeto has to pardon everyone in his circle he will be exposed eventually.


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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