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Message 16 of 64 (798601)
02-03-2017 5:42 PM


And now trump is gutting Lyndon Johnson's 1954 separation of church & state clause so that non-profit churches can raise & funnel their monies into candidates of their choice.

oooge....


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Message 17 of 64 (798604)
02-03-2017 5:46 PM
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02-03-2017 4:36 PM


Re: House votes to end rule that prevents people with mental illness from buying guns
Actually it appears to me that this is done to allow these law makers to purchase guns. Any rule preventing the mentally ill from buying guns would clearly preclude the law makers from purchasing them. Since they are clearly out of their freakin' minds!
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Message 18 of 64 (798605)
02-03-2017 6:00 PM
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02-03-2017 5:42 PM


1954?

http://www.constitution-billofrights.com/...church-and-state

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._United_States_Constitution#Text

1964 (Johnson) amendment 24 -- amendments can't be overruled by a president -- it takes 2/3rds of house and senate. That won't happen.

quote:
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/765344/posts

Congress Refuses To Free Churches From Lyndon Johnson Gag Order (2002)

http://www.politicususa.com/...estroy-johnson-amendment.html

Trump Attacks Separation Of Church And State With Vow To Totally Destroy Johnson Amendment

https://en.wikipedia.org/...o_the_United_States_Constitution

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Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1]


About Joe Crow, Not about separation? I'm confused, but I don't think I am the only one.

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Message 19 of 64 (798607)
02-03-2017 6:40 PM
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02-03-2017 6:00 PM


The Johnson clause
RAZD inquires:

1954?

yes. Lyndon was just a Senator from Texas then. It passed and Ike signed it.

HTH


- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 20 of 64 (798608)
02-03-2017 6:45 PM
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02-03-2017 6:00 PM


1964 (Johnson) amendment 24 -- amendments can't be overruled by a president -- it takes 2/3rds of house and senate. That won't happen.

Well, criminal and insane people have taken over Congress and the Whitehouse and are in the process of stacking the deck on the Supreme Court with nutty religious zealots, so get ready for them to do anything they want to with absolute impunity.


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Message 21 of 64 (798612)
02-03-2017 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by NosyNed
02-03-2017 5:46 PM


Re: House votes to end rule that prevents people with mental illness from buying guns
Actually it appears to me that this is done to allow these law makers to purchase guns. Any rule preventing the mentally ill from buying guns would clearly preclude the law makers from purchasing them. Since they are clearly out of their freakin' minds!

Yep, I saw that idea over and over today on facebook. It's as if we not only somehow got an insane psychopathic narcissist in the Whitehouse, but he poisoned the entire GOP in Congress with something that made them insane also. There is so much nutty stuff going on right now, in Congress and the Whitehouse, that it is really hard to keep track of. There are conspiracy theories that some kind of major conspiracy is afoot and they are trying to distract us and their own supporters while they fuck us over, royally.

Back before the orange nutjob was sworn in, I posted a few places on the web that a Shit-Storm and a Cluster-Fuck were about to mate and release a plague on humanity. The reality has been even worse than I feared and it is metastasizing.


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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 22 of 64 (798614)
02-03-2017 8:05 PM
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02-03-2017 7:12 PM


Re: House votes to end rule that prevents people with mental illness from buying guns
Well of course. Mad people with guns are essentially the Republican base ...
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Message 23 of 64 (798615)
02-03-2017 8:13 PM


HJR 46, which would allow drilling in our national parks
Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ 4th District) on Monday introduced HJR 46, which would allow drilling in our national parks. Gosar also received $250K from Big Energy.

This was posted this afternoon by altnps.org the Alt National Park Service.

It is interesting to see the growing number of rogue career employees at federal agencies who have organized to resist the Trump agenda and publish data and reports and updates about what is happening within the agencies, disobeying various gag orders from the Whitehouse.

It's the INTERNET baby! It worked during the various "Arab Spring Uprisings" and it will work for resistance to the evil Empire and the Dark Side.

The only thing that could stop it is an EMP, but then Tweety wouldn't have anyone to read his childish tweets.


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Message 24 of 64 (798616)
02-03-2017 8:17 PM
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02-03-2017 8:05 PM


Re: House votes to end rule that prevents people with mental illness from buying guns
Well of course. Mad people with guns are essentially the Republican base ...

Yep, they scare the crap out of me, despite that some people claim that none of them are violent or dangerous. Christians with guns are the scariest of all.


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Message 25 of 64 (798710)
02-04-2017 11:31 PM


H.R. 622 puts America’s national forests, parks, and wildlife refuges in danger
Bill to Cut Forest Service and BLM Enforcement is a Poacher’s Dream, Sportsman’s Nightmare

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Most of the time, America’s 640 million acres of national forests, parks, and wildlife refuges are pretty peaceful places. But they are not immune to very real threats: drug runners, meth labs, pot farms and worse. Not to mention the growing population increases the frequency of less dramatic crime like vandalism, arson, poaching, illegal pot hunting and destruction of natural resources.
That is why H.R. 622, introduced by Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, is such a menace. Chaffetz would do away with law enforcement officers on National Forests and Bureau of Land Management—millions of acres where Americans hunt and fish.

This is exactly the plan that the Bundy bunch were pushing when they tried to steal the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Constitutional sheriffs should be the only ones to enforce the law on public lands according to them. Of course since many of these western counties are sparsely populated they don't have enough tax revenues to pay for this so I guess we'll just have to sell some of the land to rich people (who should own it anyway).

quote:
“It’s time to get rid of the BLM and US Forest Service police. If there is a problem your local sheriff is the first and best line of defense,” Chaffetz said in a press release. “By restoring local control in law enforcement, we enable federal agencies and county sheriffs to each focus on their respective core missions.”

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Message 26 of 64 (798738)
02-05-2017 8:07 AM
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02-04-2017 11:31 PM


H.R. 622 withdrawn
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Facing backlash, Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz withdraws bill to transfer federal land to the states

Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, withdrew legislation Thursday that would have transferred 3 million acres of land from federal to state ownership, citing objections from constituents who complained that the move would limit access to public hunting and fishing grounds.

The Disposal of Excess Federal Lands Act, which would have shifted federal holdings to state governments in Utah, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon and Wyoming, prompted an outcry among hunters and anglers' groups. Introduced three weeks after House Republicans enacted a rule change to make it easier to sell off federal land, the measure prompted two separate rallies in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and Helena, Montana, this week that drew hundreds of people opposed to the measure.

"I am sensitive to the perceptions this bill creates in the current environment," Chaffetz wrote in his letter to House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Rob Bishop, R-Utah. "As a proud gun owner, hunter and public lands enthusiast, I want to be responsive to my constituents who enjoy these lands. I look forward to continuing to work with stakeholders in the broader public lands discussion in a collaborative manner."

On Wednesday evening, Chaffetz posted a photo of himself hunting with his dog, signaling his intent to withdraw H.R. 621, writing that it "would have disposed of small parcels of lands [President] Clinton identified as serving no public purpose," but added that he recognizes the concerns it had sparked. The congressman, who introduced the bill Jan. 24, had offered similar legislation in several previous Congresses.

A wide array of outdoors groups praised the move.

Aaron Kindle, Western sportsmen's campaign manager for the National Wildlife Federation, said in a statement that his group appreciates "that Mr. Chaffetz listened" to those opposed to the bill.

"This loss would have forever robbed the American people of the amazing bounty these and all public lands provide," Kindle said. "Another good move would be to withdraw the recently approved House rule that devalues public lands and makes them easier to dispose of."

Katie McKalip, communications director for the Montana-based Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, said in an email that its members and others "have sent a clear message, in no uncertain terms, that Americans greatly value our nation's public lands and waters and that we will not tolerate actions by our elected officials that diminish them."


There is hope.

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Message 27 of 64 (798745)
02-05-2017 9:00 AM
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Re: H.R. 622 withdrawn
HR 621 & HR 622 were different but equally crazy bills. Looks like both have been withdrawn. Maybe a slight nod to sanity.

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Message 28 of 64 (798752)
02-05-2017 11:00 AM
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Re: H.R. 622 withdrawn
HR 621 & HR 622 were different but equally crazy bills. Looks like both have been withdrawn. Maybe a slight nod to sanity.

Nope, not Chaffetz. He is still a nutjob fellow traveler with the Bundys and a pawn of the wealthy who want to clearcut and stripmine America.

A lot of these early bills are just distractions while the Senate, the House, and Whitehouse are testing how much the press and public are paying attention. They assume that the Democratic public will lose interest fairly fast and then they can grab America by the pussy and no one will be organized to protest. This has worked well for them since the Reagan years.


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Message 29 of 64 (798759)
02-05-2017 11:40 AM


H.R.861 - To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.
H.R.861 - To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.

This sounds like a great idea.

The George Washington Bridge in heavy smog, photographed during the early 1970s before many of today's clean air protections were put in place. This photograph is part of the Environmental Protection Agency's series to "Photographically Document Subjects of Environmental Concern," compiled 1972-77. (The US National Archives/Flickr)


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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 30 of 64 (798763)
02-05-2017 12:10 PM
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Re: H.R.861 - To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency.
None of this will matter when the oceans food chain collapses.

"With higher metabolic rates in the warmer water, and therefore a greater demand for food, there is a mismatch with less food available for carnivores—the bigger fish that fisheries industries are based around," says Associate Professor Nagelkerken. "There will be a species collapse from the top of the food chain down."

https://phys.org/...0-global-marine-analysis-food-chain.html

When this happens the planet will starve to death, triggering the greatest mass extinction not seen in this world for 60 million years.


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