Welfare - what is it and who benefits

I don't think things are as binary as the extremes of both sides make out.There are people who take the piss out of the welfare system. That's unfair and wrong, and it's right to stop that.There are people who need a welfare system, because through no fault of their own, they can't do what a large number of us can to earn our way. Sometimes this is temporary, sometimes permanent. But it is a decent and proper thing for society to do, to help them out.A welfare system should exist to help people in an unfortunate position. And those people who are not in an unfortunate position and choose to abuse welfare should be stopped. That, I think, is the extent of the moral position.The pragmatics of delivering that is what keeps people scratching their heads.