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nwr
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Message 46 of 129 (797942)
01-29-2017 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Faith
01-29-2017 6:19 AM


Re: Freedom of the press under threat
Being literally American by citizenship unfortunately does not confer an American worldview after decades of Marxist globalist propaganda through the media and the universities.

Case in point -- you do not have an American viewpoint, though I presume that you are a citizen.


Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 47 of 129 (797948)
01-29-2017 7:36 PM
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01-29-2017 4:31 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
Dear heart - there might be no racism against black folks - just against Mexicans, Arabs,....., in Mr Trump's rhetoric. But the Trump support by the Klan, by Breitbart, by the neo-America-Firsters... That speaks volumes.
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Message 48 of 129 (797950)
01-29-2017 7:50 PM
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01-29-2017 7:36 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
But the Trump support by the Klan, by Breitbart, by the neo-America-Firsters... That speaks volumes.

His lack of any critical comments about them and his quite overt behavior, plus his appointees, also speaks volumes.

When someone states absolutely:

quote:
There is NO racism in Trump's agenda none. But there is plenty on the other side.

I would be completely unsurprised to hear that same person claim that Trump is the second coming.


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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 49 of 129 (797951)
01-29-2017 7:53 PM
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01-29-2017 7:50 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
I would be completely unsurprised to hear that same person claim that Trump is the second coming.

More closely matching the Beast of Revelation fame.


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Message 50 of 129 (797953)
01-29-2017 7:59 PM
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01-29-2017 7:53 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
I would be completely unsurprised to hear that same person claim that Trump is the second coming.

More closely matching the Beast of Revelation fame.

That's what makes me feel like I fell into a Twilight Zone Universe, who could have guessed that the Christians would ever support him?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 51 of 129 (797954)
01-29-2017 9:10 PM
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01-29-2017 7:59 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
That's what makes me feel like I fell into a Twilight Zone Universe, who could have guessed that the Christians would ever support him?

Well in Revelation the Beast is supported.


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Message 52 of 129 (797957)
01-29-2017 10:56 PM
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01-29-2017 7:36 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
Dear heart - there might be no racism against black folks - just against Mexicans, Arabs,....., in Mr Trump's rhetoric. But the Trump support by the Klan, by Breitbart, by the neo-America-Firsters... That speaks volumes.

There is no racism against anybody, whatever, in the Trump camp, not blacks, not whites, not Mexicans, not Arabs, unlike the Left which is a bubbling pot of racism, no ability to think in any other terms, seemingly out to create a race war in the country. There is something very wrong with the liberal/leftist mind that can turn necessary rational security measures into racism. A something wrong that has been carefully crafted by the inventors of PC for decades, the inventors of what is now called "identity politics." It's a perniciously dangerous small-minded intellectually shriveled mental state that makes villains out of innocent people for leftist political purposes, the slavery or annihilation of once-great western civilization.

I don't know what a "neo-America-Firster" is but Trump's project of putting America first is a lungful of fresh air after years of anti-American leftist globalist terrorism. I also don't know what you have against Breitbart but they are not racists either, they are one of the solid patriotic correctives to the lying media that have emerged out of the poisonous leftist miasma. Two down, and the Klan? They may support Trump but Trump doesn't support them and neither do I or the vast majority of Trump supporters.

There is something seriously wrong with the Liberal/Leftist mindset.

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Message 53 of 129 (797958)
01-29-2017 11:07 PM


voter fraud revisited
This thread has gone seriously off topic. Perhaps I should have put up a broader OP.

To try to get at least limpingly back to the topic, one of the problems I'm having with putting together an argument for voter fraud is that I can't find a written discussion of the range of issues involved. Alex Jones has been pushing the idea most strenuously but he gives his views in audio form and I can't collect them in that form.

The evidence is varied, not just one type. It includes things like leftists openly admitting to encouraging illegals to vote, even as a necessary way to get their candidates elected. There is a picture on something I posted a while back that shows a sign directing illegals to vote, and a crowd gathered for that purpose. The evidence also includes various independent studies and studies by universities, and I can't remember what all else. If it all shows up in some form that can be posted here I'll post it.


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Message 54 of 129 (797959)
01-29-2017 11:19 PM
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01-29-2017 6:47 PM


Re: Freedom of the press under threat
Oh yes, one of the left's deep insights involves tit for tatting. What you think is American is really Marxist-globalist-inspired hatred of America. The upside-downness brought about by decades of propaganda.
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Message 55 of 129 (797960)
01-30-2017 12:24 AM
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01-29-2017 11:19 PM


Re: Freedom of the press under threat
Sure Faith, whipping Quakers out of town and burning down Vatholic Churches is the Real America. It is the evil "Marxist-globalist" Founding Fathers who are not...
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Message 56 of 129 (797961)
01-30-2017 12:32 AM
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01-29-2017 11:07 PM


Re: voter fraud revisited
So basically your evidence consists of assertions from a site full of conspiracy theories and lies. And you are not even willing to put this evidence in writing.

And according to my own reading the originator of the claim of massive illegal voting has NOT released his evidence or methodology and will not do so for months

So at this point it is just an unsubstantiated claim being passed off as a fact.


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Message 57 of 129 (797962)
01-30-2017 12:43 AM
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01-30-2017 12:32 AM


Re: voter fraud revisited
Thanks for reminding me of Greg Phillips. I'm really not able to keep up with these things, I wish wish wish that someone else would come along who can do better what I'm trying to do, someone who is better organized for the purpose.
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Faith
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Message 58 of 129 (797963)
01-30-2017 12:44 AM
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Re: Freedom of the press under threat
Sometimes I wonder how you leftist scorpions manage to keep from stabbing yourselves with your own poison tails.

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Faith
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Message 59 of 129 (797964)
01-30-2017 12:50 AM
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01-29-2017 7:36 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
One of the things I fail at on this subject is keeping track of facts such as that Hillary Clinton among other Democrats supported legislation for building a wall on our southern border some ten years ago, and such as that Obama put out the same executive orders curtailing immigration from the same countries Trump is now curtailing, but Trump is vilified for doing exactly what Obama got no flak for doing. And there is a clear law that says the President can prevent the entry of any foreigners who are a danger to the nation, which puts the kibosh on supposed legal problems with that action. There's lots of this kind of stuff out there that I'm no good at remembering and presenting.

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Message 60 of 129 (797965)
01-30-2017 12:57 AM
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01-30-2017 12:43 AM


Re: voter fraud revisited
Nobody can present a decent case for it. That is your problem. If you found one you could just present it. If the audio recordings had anything decent you could transcribe them. The fact you don't rather suggests that they have nothing of value - just more unsupported allegations.
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