Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

Now snark, insinuation and ad hominem.

Fact and justified suspicions. Thank you for providing further justification.

Almost all? Entirely blameless? One survey showed that 36% of Muslims of student age in the U.K. supported the death sentence for ex-Muslims. You don't have to actually kill to terrorise others. Suddenly Faith, the author of this thread, looks like a religious liberal! Indeed. But terrorizing others has been a very common religious practice throughout history. I suggest taking the ex-Muslims as refugees from Islam and banning the Muslims. Let in the oppressed, not the oppressors.

This is slander, it's positively evil to insinuate such a thing. It's the new fascism of the Left, instead of racist slurs it's accusations of racism. It's just as evil and has just as much potential to generate violence against the hated class. Which we are seeing in all the anti-Trump violence.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Faith, wouldn't you like to live in a society in which fornication is rare, homosexuality forbidden, and all the good old fashioned values are respected? If so, instead of bothering about Muslims migrating to the U.S., why don't you migrate to a Muslim country?

I don't think he's accusing you of racism, he's mocking your inclination to believe everything is a conspiracy against you/Protestants/the US etc. That's how it reads to me anyway and your response only makes it funnier.

One of the big issues is that Faith as well as many others seem to be totally clueless what Fascism is.Nothing in the post Faith was replying to suggested ultra-Nationalism, Corporatism or any other characteristic of Fascism.From Wikipedia:

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Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete, and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties. Such a state is led by a strong leadersuch as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist partyto forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature, and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation. Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.

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It is interesting to examine those characteristics in light of Faith's posts and today's USA.Is there a group that believes liberal democracy is obsolete?Is there in effect a one party system in the US where one party has control of the Judiciary, the Executive Branch and the Legislature?Is there someone who claims to be a strong, perhaps even Uuge, leader?Did the government say the plan is to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society?Is the plan to advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies?And finally, is there a leader who has said that the US must strengthen it's military as a way to Make America Great Again?Perhaps Faith may learn what Fascism really is; and in the case of the US today, it is us.

No.It means that I strongly agree with him (or, at least, what I think he's saying) and therefore I strongly support his ability to hold such a belief.Supporting someone having a belief is not the same thing as supporting that same belief.I do not support the belief of the Flat Earth Society.
I do not support the belief of the Neo-Nazi's.I do support the Flat Earth Society in their ability to hold their belief.
I do support the Neo-Nazi's in their ability to hold their belief.I do not support the current actions of the Flat Earth Society that they take based upon their belief.
I do not support the current actions of the Neo-Nazi's that they take based upon their belief.Let's take the "bolder" example a little further:Neo-Nazi Belief: White people are better than all other people.
-I do not support this belief.
-I do support the Neo-Nazi's ability to have this belief and profess it.Neo-Nazi Current actions: Kill all non-white people. Use policies or other "white collar" methods to harm non-white people.
-I do not support these actions.Neo-Nazi Possible actions: Since white people are better, this Neo-Nazi group of white people is going to set an example for all others and build homes for all the homeless people, regardless of whether or not the homeless are black, white, or any other race.
-I would support this action.
-I would still not support their belief.
-I would still support their ability to hold their belief.I hope that clears some things up?

GOP Celebrates Black History Month by approving a racist for AG and not allowing a letter from Loretta Scott King to be read.Pathetic.So let's get this straight: if a senator is picked for any position that needs senate approval, it is not allowed to say anything detrimental to his qualifications even though that is the duty of the senate.So senators get preferential treatment that amounts to a free pass?Somehow I don't see how that is anywhere in the constitution.Does Sessions recuse himself from the vote? Rather a large conflict of interest imho.Sad.

How many Germans and Japanese have immigrated to the US since WWII?

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List of people who were beheaded - United States

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For beheadings before 1776, see European New World colonies.

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• At least 21 insurgent black slaves executed (1811) after the German Coast Uprising near New Orleans, Louisiana. Their heads were displayed on pikes and gates as a warning
• Isaac N. Ebey (1857) — Washington state pioneer murdered by Haida Indians
• Pearl Bryan (1896) — Murdered in Fort Thomas, Kentucky
• Tom Ketchum (1901) — accidentally decapitated in New Mexico Territory in botched hanging for train robbery
• Gordon Reid and Ruby Ellen Shaffer (1952) — decapitated in racing car crash[citation needed]
  
• Denny Keith (1964) — decapitated in racing car crash
• Charles Bassett (1966) — decapitated in crash of jet aircraft
• Les Ritchey (1966) — decapitated in drag racing crash
• Ken Kotalac (1969) — decapitated in drag bike racing crash
• Franois Cevert (1973) — cut in pieces in racing car crash
• Helmuth Koinigg (1974) — decapitated in racing car crash
• 16 Victims of Jeffrey Dahmer (1978—1991)
• Boris Sagal (1981) — partially decapitated by helicopter
• Vic Morrow and Myca Dinh Le (1982) — decapitated by crashing helicopter during film shoot
• Christa Hoyt (1990) — decapitated by serial killer Danny Rolling
• Russell Phillips (1995) — decapitated in racing car crash
• Robert Lees (2004) — decapitated by murderer
• Randy Fry (2004) — decapitated by a great white shark[30]
  
• Katie Flynn (2005) — decapitated in car crash [31]
  
• Aasiya Zubair (2009) — decapitated in New York state by murderer/husband Muzzammil Hassan
• Hanny Tawadros and Amgad Konds (2013) — decapitated posthumously, allegedly by murderer Yusef Ibrahim [32]
  
• Patricia Ward (2014) — decapitated in her son's apartment in New York City by her deranged son then dragged to the street. Witness initially thought it was a part of a Halloween display. The son then committed suicide by jumping in front of a train.[33]
  
• Colleen Hufford (2014) — 54-year-old woman was decapitated in Oklahoma by a 30-year-old pro-Jihad, Islamist, Jah'Keem Yisrael, formerly Alton Alexander Nolen. Jah'Keem reportedly began a second beheading and sliced the neck of Tracey Johnson. Jah'Keem was ultimately stopped by Vaughn Foods employee who privately kept a gun for protection.
• Caleb Schwab (2016) - Caleb, the 10-year-old son of Kansas state representative Scott Schwab, was decapitated while sliding down the world's tallest water slide (Verrckt) at Schlitterbahn Kansas City in Kansas City, Kansas.[34] State officials in Kansas announced in November 2016 that the water slide would be demolished because of the incident, despite being the world's tallest water slide.[35]

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So only two beheadings of Americans from a "pro-Jihad, Islamist" in 2014 ... out of "3.3 million (1% of the U.S. population, 2016)" muslims in AmericaYou are more likely to be beheaded by an American (Jeffrey Dahmer, Danny Rolling), and you are way more likely to be killed by an American over some silly dispute (road-rage?) sadly. Fear is not reason.Enjoy

RAZD, I find your reasoning to be extremely bizarre.I myself was going to mention that after we defeated Germany and Japan we accepted many Germans and japanese into the country because we had no reason to fear that they would retaliate against us after they were here, as there is every reason to suppose Muslims would when they are in a position to do so -- which that video I posted was intended to show. Because Germany and Japan are civilized countries that are not ruled by a totalitarian ideology that seeks the death of people who disagree with it. They assimilate and become genuinely American.I know you are all in denial about it, but Muslims do not assimilate if they are true to their ideology, they form communities isolated from the culture they've entered, and wait until they have enough population to attempt a coup -- unless they have fallen away from their religion, and often it's hard to know because they then have to fear for their own lives.As for beheadings, accidents compared to murder by fanatics? What? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

From everything I've read Sessions has an excellent civil rights record. This accusation of racism is false.

We're not clueless, jar, we are applying the MAIN characteristics of fascism where they belong, on the Left, rejecting the standard definition in terms of political ideology, which is falsely and viciously slung against American conservatives, who share none of that political ideology and certainly none of the totalitarianism that is characteristic of both fascism and today's Left.Your attempt to pin fascism on Trump supporters or America in general is a vile lie, all of it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There's nothing funny about insinuating that someone is anti-Semitic. If it had anything to do with conspiracy theories it would be applied to something I said that could be interpreted as a conspiracy theory. But then too it would be slander.

Why don't YOU go hang out in a Wahhabi Muslim enclave?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.