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Message 691 of 1001 (805700)
04-20-2017 9:07 AM
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04-20-2017 8:57 AM


Re: Could you explain your Good Lord remarks
Actually the Good Lord is Ganesha.

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Ganesha is widely revered as the remover of obstacles, the patron of arts and sciences and the deva of intellect and wisdom. As the god of beginnings, he is honoured at the start of rituals and ceremonies. Ganesha is also invoked as patron of letters and learning during writing sessions.

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Message 692 of 1001 (805749)
04-20-2017 2:48 PM
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04-20-2017 8:50 AM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
DavidJay writes:

My religion is love, yours is competition and survival of the meanest and toughest and most selfish.

Can you eat love?

Let do a thought experiment:

I put you in a room and offer you love to eat or food.

We shall see by and by which religion you will choose when the selfish surviving animal that you are begins to starve to death.


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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jar
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Message 693 of 1001 (805753)
04-20-2017 3:00 PM
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All you need is ...
quote:
Love, Love, Love.
Love, Love, Love.
Love, Love, Love.
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game.
It's easy.
Nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in time.
It's easy.

All you need is love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love, love.
Love is all you need.

Nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
It's easy.

All you need is love (All together, now!)
All you need is love (Everybody!)
All you need is love, love. Love is all you need (love is all you need).


Circa 1967 Seems that era came up earlier.


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Message 694 of 1001 (805755)
04-20-2017 3:12 PM
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04-20-2017 9:07 AM


Re: Could you explain your Good Lord remarks
Actually the Good Lord is Ganesha

Ganesha is widely revered ...

Romans 1:22, 23, 25

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things...Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator...
.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 695 of 1001 (805756)
04-20-2017 3:13 PM
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04-20-2017 2:48 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
Yes you can eat love because love is an action aimed at helping others with whatever they need. Love is feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc. etc. etc.

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Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 696 of 1001 (805757)
04-20-2017 3:16 PM
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Re: Could you explain your Good Lord remarks
Which does not change the fact that Ganesha is still the Good Lord.

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Message 697 of 1001 (805763)
04-20-2017 3:37 PM
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04-20-2017 3:16 PM


Re: Could you explain your Good Lord remarks
Which does not change the fact that Ganesha is still the Good Lord.

Only to a pagan idolater who is under judgment by the true God for his worship of an animal in the place of the true God.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 698 of 1001 (805764)
04-20-2017 3:43 PM
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04-20-2017 3:13 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
Faith writes:

Yes you can eat love because love is an action aimed at helping others with whatever they need.

If you could eat love then wtf are people in places of profound famine dying from?

When a mother's child dies on a dried up breast; it is not love that is lacking.

People who talk like this have never experienced true hunger.


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 699 of 1001 (805767)
04-20-2017 3:55 PM
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04-20-2017 3:43 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
Well, if enough people with loving intentions could get to the starving then love would feed them. Love should also help them learn how to grow their own food and help in other ways. But love can't overcome some things like tyrannical governments that oppress the people and further their starvation.
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jar
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Message 700 of 1001 (805779)
04-20-2017 4:34 PM
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04-20-2017 3:55 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
Faith writes:

Well, if enough people with loving intentions could get to the starving then love would feed them. Love should also help them learn how to grow their own food and help in other ways. But love can't overcome some things like tyrannical governments that oppress the people and further their starvation.

Well maybe we can get the current tyrannical government and Christianity in the US out of the way so we can try to feed the hungry in the US.


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Message 701 of 1001 (805789)
04-20-2017 5:26 PM
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04-20-2017 3:55 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
But love can't overcome some things like tyrannical governments that oppress the people and further their starvation.

You mean like cutting funding to programs like Meals on wheels? Or proposed budget cuts to The United Nations that could cause some 20 million to face starvation?

Edited by Porosity, : Doh!


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Message 702 of 1001 (805801)
04-20-2017 8:06 PM
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Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
My, how fast a hypothetical discussion turns into political bashing.
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Message 703 of 1001 (805802)
04-20-2017 8:09 PM
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04-20-2017 8:06 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
Who brought up tyrannical governments preventing food reaching the hungry?

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Message 704 of 1001 (805803)
04-20-2017 8:11 PM
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Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
I'm thinking of some third world nations. There's nothing politically motivated about such an observation. But bringing up American government is.
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Message 705 of 1001 (805808)
04-20-2017 8:38 PM
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04-20-2017 8:11 PM


Re: Atheists and Evolutionists cant explain 'altruism'..LOVE
Faith writes:

I'm thinking of some third world nations. There's nothing politically motivated about such an observation. But bringing up American government is.

Hunger is hunger regardless of where it is. While we might have some excuse for not feeding the suffering of the whole world we have no excuse for hunger in the United State of America.

Hunger is the same for the atheist and the religious.

Jesus message is that we should feed the hungry and that starts at home.


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