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jar
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Message 46 of 68 (800551)
02-25-2017 6:09 PM
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02-25-2017 6:08 PM


Re: education
Nope, the US has no list of who is a citizen.

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Message 47 of 68 (800552)
02-25-2017 6:18 PM
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02-25-2017 6:09 PM


Re: education
thats just irresponsible , so how can you tell illegals apart from citizens?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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jar
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Message 48 of 68 (800553)
02-25-2017 6:36 PM
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02-25-2017 6:18 PM


Re: education
That can get interesting.

For example, if asked I might be able to get a copy of my Birth Certificate from the State where I was born but it would likely take weeks.

I could produce a Passport if I had one.

Fortunately I'm a White Male AngloSaxon Protestant (WASP) and speak English. My neighbor across the street is a brown Tejano who speaks only Mexican, not a word of English. He was born here but has never learned to speak English. BUT he has a Passport. And needs it. Needs it right here in River City. I don't get stopped and have to prove I am a citizen...YET.


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Message 49 of 68 (800554)
02-25-2017 6:46 PM


Gone off-topic again - Closing again
People, get a clue.

Adminnemooseus


Or something like that.

    
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Message 50 of 68 (801571)
03-07-2017 8:50 PM


Topic title & theme: The $900 billion per year U.S. military budget
Reopened again.

Do the topic theme thing.

Adminnemooseus


Or something like that.

    
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Message 51 of 68 (808455)
05-10-2017 10:26 PM


Mike Bloomberg ( of all people ) just admitted that we spend $1 trillion on defense.
On May 6, he had an article titled The Military Debate the U. S. Really Needs.

It was in the May 7 New York Post and he was generally supportive of the "about $1 trillion that funds the Pentagon and the rest of the national defense ", as one would expect.

But he seems to be annoyed at the endless b.s. about a 'readiness crisis' and the fact that the lies enabled the military budget to emerge not only "unsurprisingly" "unscathed" on the budget chopping block, but actually goaaye got yet another multi billion dollars funding pork up.

The latest military fattening was a $15 billion dollars beef-up.

Even Mike Bloomberg is getting concerned about this never ending trend.

He must be concerned about another big tax cutting scheme since we still have a $500 billion dollars a year budget deficit due to the 2001 scheme. (a scheme that politicians lack the courage to terminate )

Every 20 years, there is a new GOP administration that comes in and offers the twin towers idea of huge tax cuts and massive military spending increases.

And the twin pillars policy changes never get more than a slight roll back when the Democratic administration buffers the GOP administrations that keep coming in general succession.

The rollback stage is eye-wash really.

The general trend is ever lower taxes, higher military & security spending, with the predictable multi-hundred billion dollars in higher per year debt increases.

Republican excuses for the first $5 trillion in higher debt increases are about the same ones we heard after we got the $10-12 trillion debt that Bush left, and the excuses for the $20 trillion debt their policies have brought us are about the same.

There is no measure that any Democratic administration has brought the nation which is responsible for what we see in the (red ink stained ) fiscal situation for this year or any other year.

Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.


    
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Message 52 of 68 (808530)
05-11-2017 12:08 PM


Evolution supports the war effort
Nationalism is a guise for war mongering, evolution fits into the racism and nationalism involved and is in this way quilty of supporting the war effort, that kills millions.

But for the rich, killing their own or others matters not as long as they get wealthier and more powerful and the dumb get dumber and dumber with ridicuolous luck and chance theories, that help no one and nothing.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 53 of 68 (808531)
05-11-2017 12:21 PM
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05-11-2017 12:08 PM


Re: Evolution supports the war effort
In one post, you proclaim to Percy that you "always stay on topic", and in your very next post on this thread, about the US military budget, you shoehorn two references to evolution into your post.

Edited by vimesey, : Typo


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 54 of 68 (808541)
05-11-2017 12:45 PM


Eisenhower and the Military-Industrial Complex
I was going to quote parts of Eisenhower's speech that speaks very eloquently and presciently on the dangers of a continually standing and expanding military. However, the whole speech is pretty damn good, so everyone should just go read it.

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html


  
Davidjay
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Message 55 of 68 (808544)
05-11-2017 12:50 PM
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05-11-2017 12:21 PM


Re: Evolution supports the war effort
You have to expand the topic to discuss the topic. Evolution supports raciusm, nationalism is based on racism

Set Law means evolution is connected and IN THE SET with nationalistic spending on wars and more wars.

Or you can just know current events..... as I do.

So do stay on topic... Vim and discuss the topic rather than me.....

The topic needs clarification because the war budget is paid for by war industries incomes, hence noting how the US is the biggest supplier of weapons for war should also be included in this discussion.

Cause and effects should be discussed, related fields to the topic should be discussed.

The basis for nationalism and racism should be noted and discussed......

Evolution should be discussed in conjunction with current events, as this is an evolution discussion board.. And everything has an effect on other fields..everything.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 56 of 68 (808611)
05-11-2017 4:00 PM
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05-11-2017 12:50 PM


Davidjay contiues to lie.
Davidjay writes:

Evolution supports raciusm, nationalism is based on racism

that is two lies in one sentence.

Davidjay writes:

Set Law means evolution is connected and IN THE SET with nationalistic spending on wars and more wars.

That is utter nonsense and bullshit.


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Davidjay
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Message 57 of 68 (808735)
05-12-2017 11:48 AM
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05-11-2017 4:00 PM


Re: Davidjay contiues to tell the truth.. SET LAW
No SET LAW is not SET THEORY because the enclosed interaction of sets is the basis for LOGIC. Semantics is not logic. Logic is mathematics and is based on SETS with a specific property interacting with another set or circle that has a different property.

Its very similiar to geometry, as geometry illustrates SET LAW.

Nationalism promotes racism, the racism that a person born in one country is superior to another born in another country. Nationalism brings on war and supports racism.

Weve already discussed the evolutionary property of racism and how branching in evolution is a racist doctrine promoting supposed superiority in the races or nationalities.

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Notice how I try NOT to enflame other posters who continually call me a liar, because they have no class and because they continually get away with such deflamations of characher ... if it is against me. I just go about the discussion with different angles and different ways to prove my point. ... in an honourable way of trying to win a debate.

Military spending promotes war and continual wars that support the rich and kill the poor

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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jar
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Message 58 of 68 (808773)
05-12-2017 8:19 PM
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05-12-2017 11:48 AM


Davidjay continues to lie, but it seems that is all Davidjay can do.
Davidjay writes:

Weve already discussed the evolutionary property of racism and how branching in evolution is a racist doctrine promoting supposed superiority in the races or nationalities.

And you continue to tell porkies. Pitiful.


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Message 59 of 68 (808778)
05-12-2017 11:18 PM
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05-12-2017 11:48 AM


Re: Davidjay lies
Nationalism promotes racism, the racism that a person born in one country is superior to another born in another country. Nationalism brings on war and supports racism.

Ummm. What about all the European wars in which everyone was the same race? Same for wars among Native Americans. And lots of other examples.

Weve already discussed the evolutionary property of racism and how branching in evolution is a racist doctrine promoting supposed superiority in the races or nationalities.

No. You've claimed that, and others have shown where you are wrong. But, like a drunken sailor, you just keep wobbling about ignoring all the obstacles in your path.

What a loser!


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Davidjay
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Message 60 of 68 (808789)
05-13-2017 7:59 AM
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05-12-2017 11:18 PM


Re: I am for peace; but when I speak, they are for war.
Calling me names, without disproving what I have said, shows again you have lost the debate and retreat mentally and attack only with subjective slurs.

It reminds me of Psalms

Psalm 120:7 I am for peace; but when I speak, they are for war.

For I am for peace and equality and when you fight me and accuse me, when I am trying to stop wars, it shows you are for wars and part of the problem.

I repeat .... the Lords truth....

Psalm 120:7 I am for peace; but when I speak, they are for war.

Jesus opposes wars, evolution supports racism and wars, nationalism supports wars, greed and selfishness supports wars...

Love stops wars, but hate rules the hearts of most men.

Choose love not war.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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