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Phat
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Message 128 of 710 (800102)
02-20-2017 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by Faith
02-19-2017 10:50 PM


Re: Worship of Obama: yes it is
What about these children?
Also I have one question. Humans are universally similar. What is it that makes people politically on the left any worse---as humans---than people on the right?
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26

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Phat
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Message 363 of 710 (800592)
02-26-2017 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 362 by Tangle
02-26-2017 8:54 AM


Trump and the Authoritarian Christian
Tangle writes:
Trump got to be president of the USA by lying and making stuff up like the Swedish rapes and the non-existing UK no-go areas. How much more evidence do you need? It's propaganda that appeals to the hard of thinking and the bigots that don't know the difference between a story and a fact.
How else do you think Trump got to be president? Analyze the people that voted for him.
The Atlantic writes:
An American strand of authoritarianism may help explain why the thrice-married, foul-mouthed Donald Trump should prove to be so attractive to white Christian evangelicals. As Jerry Falwell Jr. told The New York Times in February, All the social issuestraditional family values, abortionare moot if isis blows up some of our cities or if the borders are not fortified. Rank-and-file evangelicals are trying to save the country, Falwell said. Being saved has a special resonance among evangelicalssaved from sin and damnation, of course, but also saved from the threats and impurities of a corrupt and dangerous world.
This article in The Atlantic is hardly fake journalism. I recommend reading it.
The Mind Of Donald Trump

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Phat
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Message 365 of 710 (800598)
02-26-2017 10:38 AM
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02-26-2017 9:58 AM


Re: Trump and the Authoritarian Christian
The author of that article, Dan P. McAdams, was interviewed just last month in a followup article. 'He's Going to Continue to Create Chaos'
Some quotes from the second article:
  • I have to admit that when I wrote the piece I did not think he would win the election. If I were writing it today, though, I would stick pretty much with what I wrote, but I would emphasize two things more than I did.
    The first is that I would double down even more on the idea that what you see is what you get when it comes to Trump. The piece starts off with this uneasy sense that Donald Trump is playing a role. I wanted to get behind the mask, but by the end I’m frustrated because there’s a lot less behind the mask than you expect.
  • The second thing I would emphasize more is the theme of authoritarianism. I think what we have seen in the last six monthsand now that he is presidentis that Trump really doesn’t know how, or want, to work within the typical institutional structures of democracy. Like an authoritarian leader, he wants to transcend that and connect directly to the people. He does that through Twitter, by going around the press, or by making it sound as though the world is an extraordinarily dangerous place and positioning himself as a sort of authoritarian leader, savior and strong man who will deliver the country from carnage, to use a word he used in his inaugural address.
    The upcoming State Of The Union address on Tuesday will tell us a bit more of what we (don't) want to know about this populist leader who some equate with Andrew Jackson.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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    Phat
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    Message 469 of 710 (800921)
    03-02-2017 3:44 AM
    Reply to: Message 468 by Faith
    03-01-2017 10:51 PM


    Re: Analysis of New York Times Article
    Faith writes:
    Speaking of illegal immigration, I have nothing against developing a pathway to legality for those who deserve it.
    I guess our next question is how to define the standard for who deserves it and who does not. It makes sense not to let everyone in, but how can we fairly discriminate?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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    Phat
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    Message 609 of 710 (801557)
    03-07-2017 4:22 PM
    Reply to: Message 608 by nwr
    03-07-2017 4:18 PM


    Re: Trump Tweets Falsely Again
    I'm now convinced that Trump does this stuff on purpose. He deliberately skews the news because he knows his followers don't believe the news anyway. He also attempts to incite the media into a response....which further leads credence to the conspiracy theory.
    I believe there is a definite strategy behind all this....I'm just not sure it's the best approach.
    Add by edit: Trump has advisors who are manipulating all of this. We are slow to realize that the entire power structure and agenda has turned on its head.
    I just worry how he would respond should an important global crises arise. What's the man really made of? Are his perspectives in line with reality?
    Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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    Phat
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    Message 610 of 710 (801560)
    03-07-2017 4:30 PM
    Reply to: Message 606 by Percy
    03-07-2017 11:10 AM


    Re: Trump Tweets Falsely Again
    Percy writes:
    ... One has to wonder how many of his opinions are based upon false beliefs.
    I believe that the whole strategy of the new administration is to denounce the media as biased and then spin their own version....letting the people discriminate as to what is real.
    If the media is the message, Trump is attempting to take the media away from its former owners and own it himself...via press coverage and twitter. He is taking a leaf from reality TV.
    Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    "as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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