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jar
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Message 4 of 710 (799882)
02-17-2017 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
02-17-2017 9:11 AM


Faith writes:
Trump voters DO feel the opposite of you and just about everyone else here.
How do you reconcile the fact that Donald Trump cannot seem to keep from lying about everything and that he lies so piss poorly that even an eight year old should be able to catch his lies?
If he can only lie to the Fellow Travelers how can he be effective dealing with real leaders of real nations? Is there any reason any foreign government should ever trust anything the man or his administration says?

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jar
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Message 10 of 710 (799890)
02-17-2017 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
02-17-2017 9:11 AM


More fake news from Faith
Faith writes:
Planted by... OBAMA. Yep, he's not leaving Washington, he's planning to undermine Trump with everything Soros will fund him to do.
And the evidence to support that bit of fake news is...?
Faith writes:
People are even saying he should be assassinated, implying he's a Russian spy?
No one suggests assassinating a Russian Spy. It is sufficient to simply deport them or try them for treason if the really are a US Citizen. And in the case of il Donald, the next in line for the office is even less competent than the current bungler. Having this VP is certainly good protection from assassination.
But it is a fact that his well oiled machine seems incapable of actually doing anything despite having full control of both Houses of Congress.
That is really funny.

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jar
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Message 12 of 710 (799892)
02-17-2017 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Faith
02-17-2017 10:45 AM


Re: jar's spin
Faith writes:
He's got so many people sabotaging and undermining him, even within his own camp, it's amazing how much he actually HAS got done, a lot more than most Presidents this early in their Presidency.
And where is your evidence to support that little bit of fake news?

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jar
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Message 33 of 710 (799921)
02-17-2017 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Faith
02-17-2017 6:48 PM


Re: Fake news about lawsuits
Faith writes:
Tremendous evidence of how hard the Enemy is working to bring him down.
Note the capital E on enemy.
The courts are not enemies.
The media are not enemies.
Reality is not an enemy.
How is the fact that il Donald and crew have not been able to actually present support for their dictates evidence of anyone other than il Donald himself trying to bring him down?

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jar
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Message 39 of 710 (799927)
02-17-2017 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
02-17-2017 8:52 PM


Faith writes:
The fact is there is INTENTIONAL skewing of the news on the Left against Trump, very carefully intentionally skewed, intentional lies. This has been the case in the MSM for oh something like a couple of decades now at least, but they're really going overboard against Trump.
And what is your support for that assertion?
The fact and reality is that Trump and the Trump Administration has not lived up to any of the promises that candidate Trump made.
He promised to release his tax returns (and this is an area where he certainly will be vulnerable) yet now he refuses.
He failed to present any support before the courts for his position.
He faces yet another such failure in Virginia.
He is currently named in over 50 Federal lawsuits in 17 States.
He has not been able to fill his cabinet even though his party controls both Houses of Congress.
He is even finding it hard to get people to even agree to work for him.
None of those are matters that are subject to being intentionally skewed, they are statements of fact.

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jar
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Message 42 of 710 (799932)
02-17-2017 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Faith
02-17-2017 9:04 PM


Trumps accomplishments?
That just means the US no longer has a voice among the rising productive nations of the world. It is simply ceding the leadership role to China.
Great plan.

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jar
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Message 44 of 710 (799934)
02-17-2017 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Faith
02-17-2017 9:13 PM


Please show how any concerted obstructionist element kept the Trump Administration from presenting support for Trump's position before the courts?
Please show how any concerted obstructionist element kept his cabinet choices from being confirmed?
Please show how any concerted obstructionist element kept people from being willing to even work for the man?
Please show how any concerted obstructionist element cause over 50 lawsuits to get filed in over 17 States in less than a month?

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jar
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Message 67 of 710 (799966)
02-18-2017 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
02-18-2017 4:53 PM


Faith writes:
Oh and one other thing -- back on the Verboten Presidency thread I see a perfectly normal comment by Miller is of course spun into a Hitlerian command -- it was nothing but a statement of confidence that the TRUE powers of the Presidency will be recognized, no, they have to turn it into a command that it MUST be understood that way.
Oh how I hate the lying Left.
Actually it is far more in the style and tactics of Joseph Goebbels. Learn history.

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jar
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Message 69 of 710 (799968)
02-18-2017 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Faith
02-18-2017 4:47 PM


Faith writes:
So he has a press conference where he tells it like it is. That's something we really really do like about Trump, he tells it like it is. He may get some facts wrong, who cares, the man knows what matters and he says it, he doesn't spin things.
He does not get SOME facts wrong, he seems incapable of ever getting any facts correct.
And I for one do care if the President of the US seems unable to ever get any facts correct.

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jar
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Message 78 of 710 (799979)
02-18-2017 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Faith
02-18-2017 5:26 PM


Faith writes:
However, I'll agree that the statement was far too optimistic. His opponents will never give in on any such true statement; they have to manufacture fake Constitutional interpretations, fake fake fake fake fake.
The Federal Courts cannot make a fake interpretation Faith. By definition any interpretation they make IS the law.
Basics Faith. Learn just a little about how our country works under law, about honesty and about reality.

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jar
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Message 80 of 710 (799984)
02-18-2017 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Faith
02-18-2017 6:20 PM


more uter lies and dishonesty from Faith
Faith writes:
You've all lost what shred of credibility the Left still had a decade ago, with the elevation of America-hating Communist-bred Islamist Obama to the Presidency, with all the worshipful messianic fervor bestowed on him, just as will be bestowed on the final Antichrist; and now that unbelievably twisted claim that he's the one who loves America?
More lies from you Faith.
Obama was not worshiped, he was elected and elected by a far larger majority of both voters and Electoral College votes than il Donald. There is no evidence that Obama hated America, was Communist bred 9do you have any idea just how stupid that assertion sounds?) or that he was an Islamist.
Actually, if you had ever actually read Revelation you must honestly admit that il Donald shows all the characteristics of the Beast.
AbE: And just a little more reality and history. Under the US Constitution there are three sources for Laws of the Land; SCOTUS, Laws Passed by Congress and signed by the President and Treaties Ratified by Congress. The President has no powers of law except those granted specifically by the Constitution and delegated by the Congress and neither Congress or the Executive have the right to interpret Constitutional Issues.
Edited by jar, : See AbE:

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jar
Member (Idle past 414 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 83 of 710 (799987)
02-18-2017 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
02-18-2017 6:48 PM


Re: more uter lies and dishonesty from Faith
Yes Faith, I missed all those things. In addition, I am not so stupid as to think Oprah calling him "The One?" actually carries any weight. Sorry but no evidence of worship in any of those except in the eyes of someone totally out of touch with reality.
And no one hates Trump. We might fear him, be truly embarrassed that other civilized Nations see us with such a totally incompetent President who does not even seem to know how to lie effectively or be at all in touch with reality, we might worry about the harm he seems to be doing to the US and the world as he alienates allies, relinquishes US prestige, and creates the classic image of the Ugly American, but he hopefully can't remain in office for more than eight years so there is no reason to hate someone so insignificant.

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jar
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Message 88 of 710 (799993)
02-18-2017 8:02 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
02-18-2017 7:05 PM


Re: more uter lies and dishonesty from Faith
Faith writes:
It is indeed very sad that so many voted for Obama, that alone shows the depths to which America has sunk. I don't dispute it, I just lament it.
But Trump lied about it. Lying is not quite the same as lamenting. Trump constantly lies and lies about stuff even you can fact check.
Faith writes:
CHILDREN, taught in SCHOOL to sing of the greatness of our new Fuhrer.
Yes, I don't doubt you make such a claim but I really have a very high degree of confidence that once again you are lying. I doubt any school child was ever taught to refer to Obama as our new Fuhrer.
Faith writes:
And you can stop with the abuse of the idea of separation of powers. I already answered that.
Sorry Faith but you simply can not answer that since Separation of Powers is a FACT in the US. Do you even know the derivation of the term Fuhrer? Do you understand that the US Constitution was designed to prevent the rise of a Fuhrer, particularly a Christian Fuhrer. Do you understand that the statement I posted in the Trump thread is exactly what would describe a Fuhrer?

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 102 of 710 (800012)
02-19-2017 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Faith
02-19-2017 1:11 AM


Re: Pizzagate - There's something to it???
Faith writes:
The only thing I know for sure about Pizzagate is that some very strange emails belonging to John Podesta were hacked and leaked, and what's strange about them is that there is no way to make sense of them. They seem to be about pizza or other food but nobody talks about food that way, so it appears they are some kind of code, and there are reasons to think the code refers to sex acts with children.
Which, even if it were true, has absolutely nothing to do with Hilary Clinton except in the minds of those folk who are totally disconnected from reality.

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jar
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Message 115 of 710 (800046)
02-19-2017 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Faith
02-19-2017 1:02 PM


Re: Pizzagate - There's something to it???
I can point out that John Podesta is not Hilary Clinton.

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