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RAZD
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Message 526 of 710 (801085)
03-03-2017 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 514 by Faith
03-02-2017 9:29 PM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal ...
I have no idea what's in your blinding white boxes. Should I care?
Well, seeing as they were the whole point of the post, yes. I can change one of them:
Brandon Friedman
@BFriedmanDC
Media people in my feed (left) viewed Trump's Navy SEAL moment last night very differently from the veterans (right). A story in two images:
The tweets on the left were from his media feed, and they were falling all over themselves to say how great and "presidential" it was.
The tweets on the right were from veterans, and it would be putting it mildly to say they were outraged at the exploitation of the widow's grief for political gain.
So what is fake faith? The media responses or the vets responses?
Inquiring minds want to know
Here's another take on this moment:
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Enjoy
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JonF
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Message 527 of 710 (801089)
03-03-2017 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 500 by Faith
03-02-2017 1:55 PM


Re: deportations
You mean "I wasn't aware of such orders so I didn't know the source".
You assumed, as you constantly accuse us as doing. I can think of other possible sources.

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Message 528 of 710 (801090)
03-03-2017 7:52 AM
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03-03-2017 7:48 AM


Re: deportations
As if orders were actually necessary. The anti-immigrant rhetoric from Trump and the enthusiastic take-up of it by Trump's supporters were pretty likely to influence behaviour for the worse. When personal judgements are involved that is quite enough.

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Message 529 of 710 (801091)
03-03-2017 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 513 by Faith
03-02-2017 9:27 PM


Re: deportations
Faith writes:
Percy writes:
The error in logic is all yours, but could you perhaps divert time from issuing spurious insults to providing some support for your contention that the mainstream media is "fake news"?
The insult is not spurious...
Of course the insult was spurious, and unnecessary and against the Forum Guidelines.
...and no to your question.
If you're not going to defend the main premise of your thread that the mainstream media is "fake news", then what is the point?
You've said enough offensive stuff to deserve tp be ignored.
I haven't said anything offensive. You just find the truth offensive.
It was obviously not my ignorance of Trump's actions that left Obama as the source of the actions and to twist it into that is just another insult to ME that I'm rightly objecting to.
It's obvious to everyone else here that you spoke out of ignorance. Reality isn't what you make up in your own mind. When you make a mistake, own up to it.
By the way, I'm curious, how is it that you're able to read the black on white lettering of news outlets when it's something you post yourself (like the opinion piece you just linked to in Message 518, Trump ignored first rule of crisis management come clean and he’s paying the price), but not anything anybody else posts? Since virtually all news outlets post black on white lettering, how do you read any news at all? Perhaps this explains why you seem unaware of so much.
--Percy

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RAZD
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Message 530 of 710 (801092)
03-03-2017 8:31 AM
Reply to: Message 467 by Faith
03-01-2017 10:42 PM


Re: it's hard to walk with only right feet ...
I don't know. Run one by me. But what I suspect is that "right" is defined by the left in your thinking and I don't accept most of those definitions as representing anything I believe.
curiously, I personally do not know of any to the right of InfoWars. You are more likely than me to know if any are out there, that's why I asked you.
You go on in your post to put leftist spin on everything else too. I can see how it would be very difficult to recognize leftist fake news when you simply accept it all as fact.
From where you stand anywhere from moderate republican and libertarian is leftist, so your use of it becomes meaningless, reduced to not-faithist.
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RAZD
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Message 531 of 710 (801097)
03-03-2017 9:34 AM


Leaker in Chief ... ?
quote:
BREAKING: Trump’s Android Device Believed To Be Source Of Recent White House Leaks
Initial reports from two such agencies, A.R.H. Intelligence and Z|13 Security, suspect the source of the recent White House leaks to be President Trump’s unsecured Android device.
If you’ve recently seen the hashtag — #DitchTheDevice trending on social media, it’s because, according to several private intelligence reports, the source of the multiple recent leaks within the White House is President Trump’s unsecured Android device.
The recent leaks range from information regarding his executive orders (before he issued them), fighting and chaos among White House staffers, classified conversations with foreign leaders (specifically Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull & Mexican President Enrique Pea Nieto), White House staffers conducting meetings in the dark because they can’t figure out how the lights work, and President Trump wandering the White House in his bathrobe.
Well, I'm betting that it is more than one unsecured device.
Trying not to laugh I am.
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Message 532 of 710 (801101)
03-03-2017 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 518 by Faith
03-03-2017 12:19 AM


Re: fake news and more fake news
Did Obama have to put up with this kind of stuff?
WOW!! Freaking wow!!
Are you so wrapped up in your right wing bubble that you can actually ask this question?
Folks I am really starting to think we are being Poe'd. No one can be this so unaware and so self unaware. Can they?
Edited by Theodoric, : Word choice punctuation

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 533 of 710 (801102)
03-03-2017 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 531 by RAZD
03-03-2017 9:34 AM


Re: Leaker in Chief ... ?
Though probably close to the truth it is not the truth.
The Seattle Tribune is a satire site.
quote:
The Seattle Tribune is a news and entertainment satire web publication. The Seattle Tribune may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within The Seattle Tribune are fictional and presumably satirical news — with the exception of our ‘list style’ articles that include relevant sources. The content published on The Seattle Tribune is intended to be entertainment and is often intended to generate thought and discussion among its readers. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. Advice given is NOT to be construed as professional. If you are in need of professional help, please consult a professional. The Seattle Tribune is not intended for children under the age of 18.
Forbidden!

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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RAZD
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Message 534 of 710 (801106)
03-03-2017 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 533 by Theodoric
03-03-2017 9:55 AM


Re: Leaker in Chief ... ?
Though probably close to the truth it is not the truth.
The Seattle Tribune is a satire site.
Indeed, why I am laughing so hard. (although the mental image of him walking the halls in bathrobe like Jack Nicolson in "Somethings Gotta Give" in the hospital)
I tweeted it to #DoofusPotus. LOLZ
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Message 535 of 710 (801108)
03-03-2017 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 532 by Theodoric
03-03-2017 9:49 AM


Re: fake news and more fake news
Theodoric writes:
No one can be this so unaware and so self unaware. Can they?
It's what makes the right wing possible.

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Message 536 of 710 (801110)
03-03-2017 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 530 by RAZD
03-03-2017 8:31 AM


Re: it's hard to walk with only right feet ...
Infowars doesn't consider itself to be on the right. They would consider me to be on the right but themselves to be libertarian or "classical liberals."
Republicans these days are hard to classify. I don't identify with most of them. The Bushes these days could almost be called leftist.
I don't feel alone in my views of course so "faithist" isn't a fair definition. The Political Compass test fails to characterize the right in any meaningful way, but it would be interesting if a test could be constructed that did.

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Message 537 of 710 (801111)
03-03-2017 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 529 by Percy
03-03-2017 8:10 AM


Re: deportations
You ask about my eyesight: A lot of sites I really can't read and don't, but if I really want to know something I'll sometimes copy it out into email and increase the font size. Or sometimes I just squint my way through something at the risk of my eyes. I think white blocks at EvC may be harder to read because of the contrast with the dark background. Just guessing.
And yes it does explain why I am not up on many things these days. That and a severe growing lack of motivation.

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Message 538 of 710 (801112)
03-03-2017 11:56 AM
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03-03-2017 7:48 AM


Re: deportations
If the President gives the orders that's either Trump or Obama.

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Message 539 of 710 (801113)
03-03-2017 11:58 AM
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03-03-2017 7:07 AM


Re: SOTUS use of Navy Seal ...
So what is fake faith? The media responses or the vets responses?
The media's USE of the vets' responses.

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Message 540 of 710 (801114)
03-03-2017 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 532 by Theodoric
03-03-2017 9:49 AM


Re: fake news and more fake news
Your massive indignation conveys absolutely no information. My impression has always been that Obama was/is coddled by the MSM, and that certainly can't be said of Trump. So what ARE you blathering about?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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