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Faith
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Message 676 of 710 (801889)
03-10-2017 6:48 AM
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03-10-2017 6:41 AM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
The truth about islam is not racism, but a Leftist can't be expected to understand enough logic to know that, so it has to keep being repeated ad nauseam. Blech.
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Message 677 of 710 (801895)
03-10-2017 7:17 AM
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03-10-2017 6:48 AM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
yea you are not racist, its not your fault that these Muslims are barbarians, who rape and pillage and have a plan once hey are in our countries to reproduce so much to make the white Christians the minority.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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Message 678 of 710 (801897)
03-10-2017 7:47 AM
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03-10-2017 6:48 AM


more a position of bigotry and ignorance than racist Faith
The correct term Faith is bigot since Islam is not a race at all. Your positions on Islam are probably just bigotry although when your position in general on immigration is taken into consideration the terms racist and sexist might be reasonable.

All of those though are just the product of being totally disconnected from reality or facts.


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Message 679 of 710 (801913)
03-10-2017 11:13 AM
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03-10-2017 3:06 AM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
Faith writes:

Over and over these days EvC shows itself to be a propaganda organ of the Left and little else.


And you're our biggest asset.
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Message 680 of 710 (801950)
03-10-2017 3:17 PM
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03-10-2017 11:13 AM


Re: Some more evidence of Muslim problem in Europe you can all deny
Just like Donnie is the biggest recruitment tool.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 681 of 710 (801986)
03-10-2017 6:42 PM
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03-10-2017 6:48 AM


Seventh time, Faith
Faith responds to me:

quote:
The truth about islam is not racism

So much wrong in that statement, but I'll just take two:

1) You haven't told the truth. About anything, really, but in this case, about Islam.

2) Considering that you refuse to answer the simple question, do your religious proclivities allow you to deny interracial couples; would you be "validating" "race-mixing" by doing so, then I'm going to stand by my claim of "telling the truth about your racism."

But a bigot can't be expected to understand enough logic to know that, so it has to keep being repeated as nauseum. Blech.

Seventh time, Faith. Still waiting on your answer:

How does one "validate" a marriage if you aren't the one performing the sacrament?

Do your religious proclivities allow you to deny interracial couples? Would you be "validating" "race-mixing" by doing so?


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Message 682 of 710 (801996)
03-11-2017 2:45 AM
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03-10-2017 6:42 PM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
How does one "validate" a marriage if you aren't the one performing the sacrament?

You REALLY can't figure out what "validate a gay marriage" means to an individual Christian? Your questions just look like an obscurantist insistence on a pedantic semantic point. Here's the answer:

Those Christians who have been punished for refusing to cater a gay wedding understand the Bible's definition of marriage to exclude a "gay marriage" and feel they MUST REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT APPEAR THAT THEY CONSIDER SUCH A "MARRIAGE" TO BE LEGITIMATE. Making a wedding cake is a very special custom service for a wedding so they can't do that; arranging flowers for a wedding is also a specialized wedding service, and of course so is taking photos of a wedding. Some Christian owners of such businesses have decided they cannot do these things because they would be "validating" -- treating as legitimate -- something that violates God's ordinance of marriage. In today's paganized world that means they have to accept that they will be punished.

Do your religious proclivities allow you to deny interracial couples? Would you be "validating" "race-mixing" by doing so?

As I said, the Bible teaches that all human beings are related to each other, all having descended from one original set of parents. Racial divisions are irrelevant, so Christians have no problem validating -- treating as legitimate -- "interracial" marriages, and would freely supply the custom-made cake, the flowers and the photos for such a wedding.

abe: A friend of mine hosted a reception party for a girl in our church who had been a missionary nurse to Sudan and eventually married an Americanized Sudanese Christian -- one of the many who had fled Sudan during the Muslim persecutions of the Christians. My friend now frequently babysits the couple's two children.) /abe

I hope that answers your questions.

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Message 683 of 710 (802000)
03-11-2017 4:49 AM
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03-11-2017 2:45 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
You REALLY can't figure out what "validate a gay marriage" means to an individual Christian?

Of course, we can figure that out. It means that another bigot has found her cover. A cake (or a dress or tuxedo) does not validate anything. Marriage is a civil status recognized by the state and that's all of the validation that is required. A wedding is a ceremony, and cutting a cake is just a ritual shared among friends. It is one of the least essential items. Not wanting someone to have a cake is just mean spirited because it would not stop or affect a marriage in any event. But you just might be able to dampen someone's joy about their status if you treat them like a colored person.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Message 684 of 710 (802003)
03-11-2017 5:54 AM
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03-11-2017 4:49 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
You are entitled to your view of it, but so are the Christians who won't perform certain actions because they understand them as legitimizing something the Bible condemns.
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Message 685 of 710 (802005)
03-11-2017 6:47 AM
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03-11-2017 5:54 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:

You are entitled to your view of it, but so are the Christians who won't perform certain actions because they understand them as legitimizing something the Bible condemns.

Biblical condemnation is not justification to break the laws.


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Message 686 of 710 (802020)
03-11-2017 10:27 AM
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03-11-2017 6:47 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
As Acts 5:39 tells us, we are to obey God rather than man. If the world forces laws on us that oppose God's law we are obligated to obey God's no matter what the consequences. That of course does entail consequences. If you won't worship Caesar you may get eaten by lions; if you won't affirm Transubstantiation you may get a stint in the iron maiden or buried alive; if you won't convert to Allah you may get beheaded; and if you won't make a wedding cake for a gay wedding you'll get fined at the least. I'm sure Mao and Stalin had some laws Christians couldn't accept too. Too bad all that has come to America, the former Land of the Free.

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jar
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Message 687 of 710 (802021)
03-11-2017 10:35 AM
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03-11-2017 10:27 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:

Too bad all that has come to America, the former Land of the Free.

Again Faith, reality simply shows you are wrong.

The land of the free means people are free to believe whatever they wish but it never meant that people were free to not obey the law.

And the God character in the Bible clearly sends the message that even common courtesy takes precedent over worship and obedience to God's commands.

Have you ever read the Bible Faith?


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Message 688 of 710 (802022)
03-11-2017 10:39 AM
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03-11-2017 10:27 AM


Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:

Too bad all that has come to America, the former Land of the Free.


Formerly, you weren't free to marry the person of your choice. Now, in some jurisdictions at least, you're freer than you used to be.
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Faith
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Message 689 of 710 (802024)
03-11-2017 10:46 AM
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Re: Seventh time, Faith
The Bible has such situations too. Daniel and his buddies got thrown in the lions' den and the fiery furnace for obeying God over Nebuchadnezzar (I think I have the situations wrong but you get the gist), Joseph obeyed God when Potiphar's wife tried to seduce him, and got thrown in prison when she lied and said he'd raped her; Jeremiah got thrown in a slime pit for following God instead of the false leaders and prophetc of the day;

Jesus of course got crucified for claiming to BE God; the apostle John got exiled to the island of Patmos for preaching Christ; all the other apostles duffered some kind of persecution and martyrdom for their preaching.

So if America is now going to punish Christians we should probably rejoice to be in such good company. It's a shame for America though.


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jar
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Message 690 of 710 (802026)
03-11-2017 10:53 AM
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Re: Seventh time, Faith
Faith writes:

So if America is now going to punish Christians we should probably rejoice to be in such good company. It's a shame for America though.

America does not punish Christians, it punishes law breakers. That is what is so great about the US, you cannot get punished for your beliefs (at least before Trump & Fellow Travelers) but only for your behavior.


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