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PaulK
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Message 166 of 960 (801511)
03-07-2017 2:16 AM
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03-07-2017 2:09 AM


Re: Summary on PC
It's funny how so much of your idea of PC applies to you rather than your opponents.

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Message 167 of 960 (801512)
03-07-2017 2:22 AM
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03-07-2017 2:16 AM


Re: Summary on PC
I wanted to add to my post but you got here before I could. Oh well. Of course that's what you think, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm accused of racism although it's ideologies I hate. It's a distinction lost on the Left.

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Message 168 of 960 (801513)
03-07-2017 2:38 AM
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03-07-2017 2:22 AM


Re: Summary on PC
In fact I have avoided accusing you of racism. Although for someone opposed to racism you seemed awfully ambivalent about it in a recent post.
And I guess that telling the obvious truth is what you call "PC". But it really isn't something you can reasonably complain about. If you don't want to be called a bigot then stop shoving your bigotry in our faces. And yes, I know that you don't think that it is bigotry - but believing it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

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Message 169 of 960 (801514)
03-07-2017 5:42 AM
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03-06-2017 3:16 PM


Warped racism
I have not said one bigoted or racist thing here ever. ...
Correct
You've said too many to count.
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Message 170 of 960 (801517)
03-07-2017 6:52 AM


David Horowitz on PC/ Leftist war strategy
No, I've said absolutely nothing along those lines because none of it's true, it's just the Left making racism out of important issues I'm trying to get across about illegal immigration and Islam as a dangerous ideology. Those things are not racist except in the Leftist mind.
Horowitz talks about this Leftist method of character assassination in his speech in the OP. I'll post it here again.
It's what they did to Jeff Sessions for instance, which he talks about from about 4:00 to 6:00 on the counter.
From about 12:00 to 13:00 and then again 16:00 to 18:30 he talks about PC as such. Then he goes on to talk about how Trump is able to resist it.
Then he gets into how American schools have been indoctrinated Leftist. About 20:50 he starts talking about the Leftist vision of Identity politics. I stopped there for now.
Nobody here cares what Horowitz thinks of course but I put him up as another voice for what I'm saying. Since he started out a Marxist/Communist he is at home with all the Leftist concepts and projects.
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Message 171 of 960 (801523)
03-07-2017 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 165 by Faith
03-07-2017 2:09 AM


Re: Summary on PC
Attitudes of the left feel so much more powerful, influential and effective to you because they align with both reality and basic moral principles. It isn't a "PC mentality" you're battling against but basic facts and humanity. While the right has gained political power by appealing to human weaknesses like greed, fear and paranoia, their arguments fail when met with empathy and truth.
--Percy
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Message 172 of 960 (801529)
03-07-2017 10:07 AM
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03-06-2017 5:40 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Why do you want that little girl in the men's room, Faith?
Faith will not answer this, there is really no point asking it. She is too far over the moral horizon to look reality in the eye, and face it with honesty. She is exactly like my radicalized mother. I am seriously not trying to derail this thread, but I can't help but recall a conversation I had with Faith where she kept insisting that it was morally acceptable for children and infants of Palestinian parents to be killed because of their parent's religion. It shook me to the core.
I mean, you are asking about fair bathroom use in conjunction with this girl's gender identity to a woman who believes this girl should rightly have been cut open with a sword, just for being born, had she been in Jericho during Joshua's invasion. How can we expect ANY rightfully moral response from someone so morally radicalized? She, like Joshua, like ISIS, like all the radical extremists, has rendered herself entirely incapable of this kind of moral subtlety.
Otherwise beautiful people who are morally and religiously radicalized cannot see the world as it is. Some of us are lucky enough to have escaped it, but I fear Faith, like my mother, may be too far gone.
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Message 173 of 960 (801532)
03-07-2017 10:29 AM
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03-07-2017 10:07 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith clarified her position on the transgender bathroom issue in Message 72 when she said:
Faith in Message 72 writes:
I still think if you can pass there shouldn't be a problem using the bathroom where you can fit in. So I disagree with the law that demands going where your birth sex wants you to go.
--Percy

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Message 174 of 960 (801534)
03-07-2017 10:48 AM
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03-07-2017 10:29 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Faith clarified her position on the transgender bathroom issue in Message 72 when she said:
Faith in Message 72 writes:
I still think if you can pass there shouldn't be a problem using the bathroom where you can fit in. So I disagree with the law that demands going where your birth sex wants you to go.
Yes! I think this is part of my frustration I am trying to articulate. Even given examples...concrete, real life examples with real people just trying to fit into their place in the world, the gentle humanity in Faith shines through...WHILE AT THE SAME TIME the radicalized morality rooted inside her continues defending the same laws intended to dehumanize the same people. The moral part of her sees those pictures and concedes they should use the restroom of their gender identity, yet through this entire thread Faith continues to argue that little girl should be forced to pee in a bathroom full of men. Which is it to be? They seem mutually exclusive. The moral dichotomy is fascinating and horrifying. It was me fifteen years ago, so I say this as someone who likely understands her mindset.
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Message 175 of 960 (801537)
03-07-2017 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 165 by Faith
03-07-2017 2:09 AM


Re: Summary on PC
They call me a racist a bigot, a hater and the whole PC arsenal, but deny it while throwing the usual PC lies at me. They are sure they are right, just as I said, they can't understand how they aren't.
You're a weird one. As others have noted, this very nicely describes you: you are sure you are right, and can't imagine how you aren't.
To me that's amazing because it's so clearly exactly what I've said it is, and what Horowitz said it is in the video speech in the OP: The haughty moral certainty of it, the willingness to destroy the opponent.
Conservatives have just as much a strain of haughty moral certainty for their position as "Leftists" do. Conservatives have just as much (if not more) willingness to destroy their opponents. You're living in a world of delusion, Faith.
All that happens is that more PC trashing comes down on my head. It's hopeless.
Well, get of your Offended Wounded Victim horse and start engaging with the real arguments that have been put forth against your position. No need to make yourself out to be a special little snowflake.

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Message 176 of 960 (801542)
03-07-2017 12:33 PM


Probably never before in the history of the world has such fine-sounding moral preaching been used in the service of such evil as has PC.

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Message 177 of 960 (801544)
03-07-2017 12:44 PM
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03-07-2017 12:33 PM


Common tactics of the Right.
Faith writes:
Probably never before in the history of the world has such fine-sounding moral preaching been used in the service of such evil as has PC.
Probably never before in the history of the world has such fine-sounding moral preaching been used in the service of such evil as has Christianity.
The difference is that I can actually provide support for my assertion. The ethnic cleansing done by the US in the name of Christianity and Civilizing the Pagans is a great example. No other religion has wiped out as many other belief systems and religions as has Christianity.

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Message 178 of 960 (801558)
03-07-2017 4:23 PM
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03-07-2017 2:09 AM


Re: Summary on PC
The haughty moral certainty of it, the willingness to destroy the opponent.
If I had seen only that part, I would have thought it was about the Republicans and perhaps even about Newt Gingrich who started a lot of this nasty stuff.
But you cannot see that possibility. You are blind to problems coming from the right.

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Message 179 of 960 (801559)
03-07-2017 4:26 PM
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03-07-2017 2:22 AM


Re: Summary on PC
I'm accused of racism although it's ideologies I hate.
Christianity is an ideology.

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Message 180 of 960 (801563)
03-07-2017 5:41 PM
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03-07-2017 4:26 PM


Re: Summary on PC
It's not school I hate, it's the principal of the thing.

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