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JonF
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Message 706 of 817 (812464)
06-16-2017 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 705 by Coyote
06-16-2017 3:42 PM


Re: Hmmmm
Damned tasteless. Over the top. Widely distributed?

No comment on Nugent & Jones?


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Faith
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Message 707 of 817 (812481)
06-16-2017 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 701 by Genomicus
06-16-2017 2:41 PM


Re: more of the same
Your evil hateful destructive way of thinking which is just Marxist invented class warfare designed to keep us polarized is so sad I want all the more to split this country. Pick where you want to live, I don't care, I just don't want to live in the same country with the likes of you. Even the same world. This is no longer America this might as well be Marxitopia. Or put me in the gulag, hey? That's what always comes of your kind of thinking.

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Message 708 of 817 (812482)
06-16-2017 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 706 by JonF
06-16-2017 4:17 PM


Re: Hmmmm
Its a parody, but in today's climate it is getting harder to tell parody from actual incitement to murder.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 709 of 817 (812498)
06-16-2017 10:30 PM
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06-16-2017 7:25 PM


Re: more of the same
Your evil hateful destructive way of thinking...

Hey, I'm not the one who sees 11+ million people as untermenschen.


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Faith
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Message 710 of 817 (812499)
06-16-2017 10:32 PM
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06-16-2017 10:30 PM


Re: more of the same
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Faith
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Message 711 of 817 (812500)
06-16-2017 10:45 PM
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06-16-2017 10:30 PM


Re: more of the same
Your evil hateful destructive way of thinking...

Hey, I'm not the one who sees 11+ million people as untermenschen.

No, you're the one who sees innocent law-abiding American citizens as Nazis and racists and oppressors, and falsely accuses me of treating people who have committed illegal acts as inferiors. Evil slander from a brainwashed Marxist ideologue, the cause of all the divisiveness and race baiting going on these days.

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Message 712 of 817 (812505)
06-17-2017 12:06 AM
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06-16-2017 10:45 PM


Re: more of the same
No, you're the one who sees innocent law-abiding American citizens as Nazis and racists and oppressors, and falsely accuses me of treating people who have committed illegal acts as inferiors.

You are open to the idea of rounding up undocumented immigrants and enslaving them. Thus, practically by definition, you view undocumented immigrants as subhuman. There is absolutely no moral or ethical justification for enslaving someone whose only intent was to give their loved ones a hope for a better life. Appeals to "legality" only strengthen the case that your ideology does not rest on humaneness, but on a slavish devotion to tyrannical social constructs.

And it's because of the existence of this kind of demented perspective that we need Antifa and Nazi-punchers.


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Message 713 of 817 (812506)
06-17-2017 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 712 by Genomicus
06-17-2017 12:06 AM


Re: more of the same
Appeals to "legality" only strengthen the case that your ideology does not rest on humaneness

Great point, but I would take your reasoning a step further. What I've seen in this group is a desire that illegal immigrants be treated far more harshly than the law actually allows. Some posters here absolutely despise the fact that the Constitution, as interpreted nearly since the fourteenth amendment was written, grants non-citizens due-process rights. Marc9000 complains that illegal immigration ought to be a felony despite the fact that law has never been such. And here we have an expressed attitude that maybe immigrants could be enslaved.

Quite frankly, the "jig is up" on the idea that these particular posters just hate law breakers and not brown folk in particular. Not that anyone ever believed that anyway.

And it's because of the existence of this kind of demented perspective that we need Antifa and Nazi-punchers.

I can't follow there. I don't condone punching. I want these alt-dick-heads to express their opinions as loudly as possible. The light of day is the best bleach.

But you've made a solid point about the legality farce/pretense/justification and you've also drawn a fairly damning admission. Nice work.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Not really, it is a theory that is imposed on nature so consistently that you think you are observing it. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Faith
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Message 714 of 817 (812510)
06-17-2017 3:59 AM
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06-17-2017 12:06 AM


Re: more of the same
I said nothing about enslavement. You lying anti-American brainwashed Marxist ideologue. You said somebody proposed unpaid labor as a way to get compensation for illegals entering the country. I thought that worth thinking about. It would be like community service. You lying anti-American brainwashed pigheaded Marxist propagandist. Oh wow you even support Antifa as well as the violent BLM. You Marxist creeps really do want a civil war don't you? I personally think you've said enough here to deserve to be arrested yourself.

For treason and advocating violence. The whole Left these days is a bunch of treasonous violent haters of everything good.

You race baiting creep. This is about illegality and not racism. That's Marxist lying propaganda, pure evil. I'm sure most bank robbers and drug dealers and other thieves and some murderers too "only want to give their loved ones a better life" you miserable mentally deranged Marxist.

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JonF
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Message 715 of 817 (812525)
06-17-2017 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 708 by Coyote
06-16-2017 7:35 PM


Re: Hmmmm
You're right, it's hard to tell the difference.

The really sad part is that the parody is true.


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JonF
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Message 716 of 817 (812526)
06-17-2017 8:19 AM
Reply to: Message 704 by JonF
06-16-2017 3:18 PM


Hey Faith, I just demonstrated precedent for the types of viciousness that you claim are being directed against Trump and are unprecedented.

Are you going to admit there is precedent set by the right wing?

quote:

December 3, 2015:
quote:
I don’t care why he’s foaming at the mouth, I don’t care how he got rabies, he’s rabid, get rid of the damn dog,” he said. “When Old Yeller brings us slippers, give him a biscuit; when he foams at the mouth, you shoot him between the eyes. Any questions? You got to do it. America, you got to cleanse this country. No, I’m not talking about shooting anybody. I’m talking about dealing with an outrageous condition that is painful and traumatic and frustrating, but if you don’t face the beast, you’re dead, and that’s what’s going on.”

He continued: “I don’t really care why Barack Obama is the enemy of America. I don’t really care why Nancy Pelosi is a braindead, vicious freak. I don’t care how Sheila Jackson Lee is allowed to stay in power.”

“Or why Harry Reid is a piece of crap,” host Alex Jones interjected.

Nugent went on to claim that liberal Democrats are “subhuman freaks,” while Jones wondered how America “could be ruled by such gibbering weirdos.” “If I didn’t laugh I’d probably throw up blood, it’s so insane,” Nugent said.

Nugent concluded that liberals want everyone “bending over and taking it in the ass,” and can only be thwarted by great leaders like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, Jones hoped that the establishment would eventually realize that Obama is “trying to set up a caliphate” and “overthrowing this country”: “Do they really want to put bags on our women’s heads?”


Ted Nugent: Time To ‘Cleanse This Country’ Of Liberals Who Want Everyone ‘Bending Over And Taking It In The Ass


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Faith
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Message 717 of 817 (812529)
06-17-2017 8:30 AM
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06-17-2017 8:19 AM


Your point is?

My objection is to evil IDEOLOGIES, not people going off on rants, and although I also despise the politics of Obama, Pelosi and Reid I'd rather keep the focus on the politics and not Obama, Pelosi and Reid as far as possible and I know it's hard to keep that focus, I lose it myself. But I knew nothing about Ted Nugent until the last couple of days when I finally looked him up. So he hates the Left, so do I, the Left is an evil lying destructive dogma that is ruining America.

But I heard that Nugent is going to try to tone down his rhetoric. I'm not up on his rhetoric but perhaps that would be a good thing.

Do you have a point?

Marxist labeling of people as racists and reducing questions of law and government to personal racism is lying propaganda and utterly utterly evil.


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Faith
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Message 718 of 817 (812536)
06-17-2017 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 716 by JonF
06-17-2017 8:19 AM


Nugent tells it like it is
Hey, I went and listened to that Jones-Nugent exchange at Infowars and I like it. The tone in person isn't as inflammatory as the printed version for some reason. Two patriots talking about how the Left is bringing down the country and trying to motivate other patriots to get more involved.

It's good enough to embed:
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JonF
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Message 719 of 817 (812538)
06-17-2017 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 717 by Faith
06-17-2017 8:30 AM


Your point is?

My point is what I wrote. You claimed the attacks on Trump were unprecedented. You refused to provide examples. I provided precedent and can provide plenty more.

Do yuo admit that the attacks on Trump are not unprecedented?


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JonF
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Message 720 of 817 (812539)
06-17-2017 10:40 AM
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06-17-2017 10:09 AM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
I listened to it too. It's just as inflammatory as the printed version, and chock full o' lies.
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