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Chiroptera
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Message 31 of 338 (837832)
08-09-2018 6:08 PM


Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Okay, I admit that at this point, I'm just trolling.

From the New York Times:
Melania Trump’s Parents Become U.S. Citizens, Using ‘Chain Migration’ Trump Hates

Melanie Trump's parents have now become naturalized US citizens through a process that involves being sponsored by their daughter, a US citizen.

In family-based immigration, adult American citizens can petition for residency for their parents, adult married children and siblings.

Mr. Trump has criticized the program as a path for terrorists to get into the country.

Nonetheless, I do sincerely welcome the Knavses as my fellow citizens.



Oh, God! Pride of Man, broken in the dust again! -- Quicksilver Messenger Service

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Message 32 of 338 (837835)
08-09-2018 6:49 PM
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08-09-2018 2:38 PM


Re: Standards versus chaos
I'm for bias and bigotry if it means excluding criminals, jihadists and leftists/communists/ and people who poop on sidewalks..

You will likely see this again with emphasis on particular categories. Nothing new here though. We've worse stuff about you in some of our sig files.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith

No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT


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kjsimons
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Message 33 of 338 (837840)
08-09-2018 8:23 PM
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08-09-2018 6:08 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
My wife, her parents and most of her siblings came to this country from Vietnam via chain migration via her oldest sister. None of them have committed any crimes and have all been productive law abiding citizens. It's actually a good thing for immigrants to be able to sponsor their family as they are a built in support system.
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Faith
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Message 34 of 338 (837845)
08-09-2018 11:21 PM
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08-09-2018 6:49 PM


Re: Standards versus chaos
… or practitioners of witchcraft, voodoo, animal sacrifice, human sacrifice, organized crime, gang formers and members, socialists, and many more.
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Message 35 of 338 (837846)
08-09-2018 11:23 PM
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08-09-2018 8:23 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Asians in general come from cultures that value work and personal social responsibility, in other words good candidates for citizenship.
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Message 36 of 338 (837848)
08-09-2018 11:37 PM
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08-09-2018 11:21 PM


Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
quote:

In an article for Reason magazine last May, Steve Chapman, a columnist and editorial writer for the Chicago Tribune, referenced a University of Chicago GenForward Survey of Americans, ages 18 to 34. The survey found that "62 percent believe we need a strong government to handle today's complex economic problems." Only 35 percent said "the free market can handle these problems without government being involved."

The survey, noted Chapman, found that "Overall, 49 percent hold a favorable view of capitalism -- and 45 percent have a positive view of socialism," with socialism scoring higher approval among African Americans, Hispanics and Asian Americans. Sixty-one percent of Democrats have a positive view of socialism, which is not surprising, while 25 percent of Republicans favor it, which is a surprise.


Cal Thomas admits that 25% of Republicans have a positive view about something you feel should be banned in the USA, Faith.


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Faith
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Message 37 of 338 (837849)
08-10-2018 12:05 AM
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08-09-2018 11:37 PM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
Who says I care what Republicans as a group think?
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Message 38 of 338 (837851)
08-10-2018 12:29 AM
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08-10-2018 12:05 AM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
But you DO CARE what people think.

You said you want people banned from the country over economic policy views.


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Faith
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Message 39 of 338 (837856)
08-10-2018 6:38 AM
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08-10-2018 12:29 AM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
We don't need more socialists. Isn't that a clear enough idea?
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 40 of 338 (837862)
08-10-2018 7:32 AM
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08-10-2018 6:38 AM


26% of conservatives and 23% of Tea Party folk support socialism.
https://reason.com/...ll-americans-like-free-markets-more-th

Only 70% of conservatives and 72% of Tea Party folks hold a negative view of socialism.

Faith.

You aren't being clear enough about this situation.

Clarify please.

Should they be considered dangerous too?

For their views.


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Faith
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Message 41 of 338 (837863)
08-10-2018 8:03 AM
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08-10-2018 7:32 AM


Re: 26% of conservatives and 23% of Tea Party folk support socialism.
What on earth do you mean, "dangerous?"
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Message 42 of 338 (837878)
08-10-2018 9:45 AM
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08-10-2018 8:03 AM


Re: 26% of conservatives and 23% of Tea Party folk support socialism.
"able or likely to cause harm or injury.

likely to cause problems or to have adverse consequences."


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Message 43 of 338 (837880)
08-10-2018 11:01 AM
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08-10-2018 9:45 AM


Re: 26% of conservatives and 23% of Tea Party folk support socialism.
I wonder why people who hate socialism still drive on public roads, go to public schools, use public libraries, accept public police and fire services, visit public parks, walk on public sidewalks, use public street lights, accept Social Security and Federal or State Disaster aid?

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Message 44 of 338 (837882)
08-10-2018 11:36 AM
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08-09-2018 11:23 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Faith writes:

Asians in general come from cultures that value work and personal social responsibility, in other words good candidates for citizenship.


A lot of Muslims are Asian.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 45 of 338 (837883)
08-10-2018 11:41 AM
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08-10-2018 11:36 AM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Obviously their muslimosity cancels their asianness with some left over to make them evil.
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