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Message 16 of 59 (804145)
04-07-2017 10:45 AM
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04-07-2017 10:32 AM


Re: Confirmation from 14174
Davidjay writes:

14174 confirms that static head stabilization occured in different predators.

Are you really that ignorant? If something is found in more than one critter it is NOT unique.

Is it necessary to explain even the very basics to you? Have you no knowledge of English or reality?

You still have not given us a single example of a cheetahs unique spinal cord.


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Message 17 of 59 (804156)
04-07-2017 12:00 PM
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04-07-2017 10:40 AM


Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Ok, evolutionists, come on admit your theory and be proud of it, without shirking away from an honest question. How did the cheetah get its amazing backbone...

Dont be afraid of your doctrine..

Your usual answer starts with M*******.

Counself together and someone step forward and say your all enpomassing word or cause or originater.

So when this m-word created this explosion in the cheetahs DNA, that worked out so well, was it proceeded by an earlier explosion or M-word, that made its backbone collapsible as the moderater stated.

Were they simultaneous explosions or M's in their gonads, or was it sequential. Meaning after they got up to speed the next M****** stabilized their eye sight.

First spell out your methodology without fear.

M ********

Then consider the one at a time M's or sequential M's probability, and how many years of lack of success if sequential did it take before the next M improved their eyesight sufficiently for them to avoid extinction for lack of M's

What gives all animals their instincts, traits, adaptions or GIFTS ?

Do answer brave evolutionists.

Many Thanks for your honesty.

IHS

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Evolution is not science and is pure religion, forced upon the young to ensure their faith in luck and chance rather than mathematics and design.

The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 18 of 59 (804162)
04-07-2017 1:34 PM
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04-07-2017 12:00 PM


Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Ok, evolutionists, come on admit your theory and be proud of it, without shirking away from an honest question. How did the cheetah get its amazing backbone...

Natural selection acting on variations arising in the gene pool through mutation: y'know, the process that scientists observe in operation all the time.

Now, your turn to explain it. Let me guess ... it was done by magic by a psychopathic invisible wizard who lives in the sky whom no-one has ever seen, yeah?


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Message 19 of 59 (804386)
04-09-2017 12:32 AM
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So did chickens get this special mutation at the ame time as cheetahs, and then become chickens and cheetahs later in their evolutionary lives maybe a billion years later Or did this special mutation take place miraculously after they had differentiated in to chickens and cheetahs. Besdies I dont think chickens are predators, and I dont think they travel or rough ground at 80 miles per hour, you wouldnt be cheetah- ing on us with your illogical logic, would you.

Please tell us when and where these magical lucky mutations happened. Separe or simultaneous...both together or one in one eon of time and then they barely survive3d until they got the next lucky mutation.

Run evolutionary prey, run .... but I got my eyes on ya.... you can zig and zag, but I cotcha again......

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 20 of 59 (804387)
04-09-2017 12:35 AM
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04-07-2017 1:34 PM


Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Theres the missing word, ..... Adequate .. your M ****** word is mutation, magic mutations tyhat just by luck change the DNA to make everything magically work...... you used it, you say lucky mutations that magically just appear within a million or billion of years and then the wand of magically selection beats out extinction, so that lucky cheetahs get clear vision via their miraculous lucky backbones, who earlier or simultaneously got collapsible backbones to make them amazingly fast.

But which came first the design of the backbones for speed, or the next magic mutation for clear vision via, the backbone adaptions..

Cant you guys answer, or do you await a brain mutation for you to do so. Remember supposed mutations can not be quided, or be directed in a vacuum, they according to your doctrine and biology happen sheerly by LUCK.

Although explosions and radiation and other horrible things can induce mutations. But I wouldnt call them lucky beneficial mutations. But take time off and wait for a brain mutation if you choose.

Us connected ones have things to do and places to go...

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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Evolution is not science and is pure religion, forced upon the young to ensure their faith in luck and chance rather than mathematics and design.

The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 21 of 59 (804391)
04-09-2017 1:11 AM
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04-09-2017 12:35 AM


Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Theres the missing word, ..... Adequate .. your M ****** word is mutation, magic mutations tyhat just by luck change the DNA to make everything magically work...... you used it, you say lucky mutations that magically just appear within a million or billion of years and then the wand of magically selection beats out extinction, so that lucky cheetahs get clear vision via their miraculous lucky backbones, who earlier or simultaneously got collapsible backbones to make them amazingly fast.
But which came first the design of the backbones for speed, or the next magic mutation for clear vision via, the backbone adaptions..

Cant you guys answer, or do you await a brain mutation for you to do so. Remember supposed mutations can not be quided, or be directed in a vacuum, they according to your doctrine and biology happen sheerly by LUCK.

Although explosions and radiation and other horrible things can induce mutations. But I wouldnt call them lucky beneficial mutations. But take time off and wait for a brain mutation if you choose.

Us connected ones have things to do and places to go...

I have examined your disjointed ramblings and am unable to detect a vestige of a point.

Nor did you answer my question. What is your explanation? Does it involve some sort of invisible sky-wizard doing magic? Do tell.


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Message 22 of 59 (804547)
04-11-2017 1:24 AM
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04-09-2017 1:11 AM


Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
No, un-adequate

Your on the hot seat, Explain when your magical MUTATIONS Happened, whether one at a time, or simultaneously wondrously at the same time ?

ANSWER

Dont you evolutionists ever consider the insanities you spew out. Why do you absolutely hate to answer questions., simple because you have NO ANSWERS, and you just repeat magic mutations did it, magic mutations did that too, and that...

MAGIC MUTATIONS is the biggest lie ever fostered on a dumb people, and they deserve it because they were so dumb and intimidated by such dumb arrogant people.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 23 of 59 (804548)
04-11-2017 1:27 AM
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04-11-2017 1:24 AM


Re: Did one MUTATION cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Ill count to hundred, or lets give you one day, and then if you cant answer, again we shall claim victory for the Lord.

The Lord created cheetahs backbones, speed and sight, together at once.

As well s all its other attributes, not over ages and eons but at one instance in time.

One day, and victory agin will go to the Lord of Creation, and Mutations will lose again.

24 hours , one day ... begin now


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 24 of 59 (804594)
04-11-2017 12:24 PM
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Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
MAGIC MUTATIONS is the biggest lie ever fostered on a dumb people, and they deserve it because they were so dumb and intimidated by such dumb arrogant people.

Ummmm. You believe in a talking snake and a magic flood.


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Message 25 of 59 (804596)
04-11-2017 12:37 PM
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Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Your on the hot seat, Explain when your magical MUTATIONS Happened, whether one at a time, or simultaneously wondrously at the same time ?

One at a time, of course. Were you asleep during biology class or just too stupid to understand it?

Your turn. Does your explanation involve an invisible genocidal sky-wizard?

Why do you absolutely hate to answer questions

I don't, that's another halfwitted lie you're drooling out of your filthy stupid lying mouth.

Now, your turn. Does your explanation involve an invisible genocidal sky-wizard?

simple because you have NO ANSWERS, and you just repeat magic mutations did it, magic mutations did that too, and that...

That is a moronic lie, I have never used that stupid phrase in my entire life because I am not a lying creationist halfwit.

You roll in the filth of your lies like a pig rolls in its own shit. Why do you do this, David? What do you hope to achieve?


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Message 26 of 59 (804685)
04-12-2017 7:38 AM
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Re: Did one M********** cause Cheetah backbones or 2 M's
Was the Cheetah "kind" on the ark?

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Message 27 of 59 (805120)
04-15-2017 9:49 PM
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Re: Was the Cheetah "kind" on the ark?
Of course not.
The Cheetah devolved from the Cat Kind that was on the Ark.

How did all the animals fit on Noah’s Ark?
http://creation.com/how-did-all-the-animals-fit-on-noahs-ark


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Message 28 of 59 (805121)
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Re: Was the Cheetah "kind" on the ark?
The Cheetah devolved from the Cat Kind that was on the Ark.

What do you make then of Smilodon (saber-toothed tiger) that lived 2.5 mya–10,000 years ago?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 29 of 59 (805130)
04-16-2017 5:30 AM
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Re: Smilodon :-)
Smilodon is an extinct cat that probably lived in the post flood world.

Recent DNA sequencing data confirm that such distinctions are not fundamental in nature and that all cats share a common genetic ancestry. More recently described hybridizations between great cats and small cats, along with various other studies described in the present article, further support the hypothesis that all cats belong to a single clearly delineated basic type. The Nimravidae (paleosabers), the Machairodontinae (neosabers inclding Smilodon) and the genus Panthera each underwent a prominent radiation during the tertiary period. All three taxa represent cat-like placental carnivores, and they may all have arisen from the same basic type.
http://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j25_2/j25_2_118-124.pdf


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Message 30 of 59 (805143)
04-16-2017 9:56 AM
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Re: Smilodon :-)
Smilodon is an extinct cat that probably lived in the post flood world.

The dates for Smilodon go back some 2.5 million years.

Are you saying the flood was earlier than that? I've been assured in another thread that the flood was very close to 4350 BC.

Hmmmmmm.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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