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Faith
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Message 31 of 59 (805145)
04-16-2017 9:59 AM
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04-16-2017 9:56 AM


Re: Smilodon :-)
He's saying your dates are wrong.
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Message 32 of 59 (805146)
04-16-2017 10:01 AM
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04-16-2017 9:59 AM


Re: Smilodon :-)
Faith writes:

He's saying your dates are wrong.

At best he is showing his ignorance.

There is no evidence ever provided that the dates are wrong.

AbE:

Plus no one has yet shown any evidence that Cheetahs have a unique spinal cord.

Edited by jar, : see AbE:


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Davidjay
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Message 33 of 59 (805148)
04-16-2017 10:13 AM
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04-16-2017 9:56 AM


Re: Smilodon :-)
2348 BC for the Great World Wide Flood.....

Noah did not take dinosaurs and many of the extinct animals that died in the Flood.

For details SEE

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/...rkandtheWorldwideFlood.html

As Jesus verfied Noah and the ARK

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/...nfirmedNoahandtheFlood.html

Jesus never lied about anything nor was wrong about anything, including TRUE HISTORY


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 34 of 59 (805158)
04-16-2017 10:31 AM
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04-16-2017 10:13 AM


Re: Smilodon :-)
2348 BC for the Great World Wide Flood.....

Then the claim that Smilodon is post-flood is incorrect, as the range for that species is 2.5 million to about 10,000 years.


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Message 35 of 59 (805168)
04-16-2017 11:54 AM
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04-16-2017 5:30 AM


Re: Smilodon :-)
Recent DNA sequencing data confirm that such distinctions are not fundamental in nature and that all cats share a common genetic ancestry. More recently described hybridizations between great cats and small cats, along with various other studies described in the present article, further support the hypothesis that all cats belong to a single clearly delineated basic type. The Nimravidae (paleosabers), the Machairodontinae (neosabers inclding Smilodon) and the genus Panthera each underwent a prominent radiation during the tertiary period. All three taxa represent cat-like placental carnivores, and they may all have arisen from the same basic type.

Now there's some creationist dogma I can get behind.

Where's Dredge? Dredge?


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Message 36 of 59 (805267)
04-17-2017 7:18 AM
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04-16-2017 10:13 AM


Since dinosaurs are land vertebrates they probably were on the Ark, but have since become extinct. This would explain the worldwide legends of "dragons".

The largest dinosaur eggs were the size of a football so by taking young ones even Brontosaurus would have had no trouble getting on board.


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Message 37 of 59 (805268)
04-17-2017 7:23 AM
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04-17-2017 7:18 AM


This would explain the worldwide legends of "dragons".

So would something similar explain the worldwide legends of Slenderman?


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Message 38 of 59 (805423)
04-18-2017 12:59 PM
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04-16-2017 10:13 AM


Re: Smilodon :-)
Davidjay writes:

Noah did not take dinosaurs and many of the extinct animals that died in the Flood.


That isn't what the Bible says:
quote:
Genesis 6:19-20 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

You can claim that the dinosaurs were extinct before the flood, if you like, but if they were alive when the flood started, they must have been on the ark.
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Message 39 of 59 (805553)
04-19-2017 9:05 AM
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04-18-2017 12:59 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Yea, one verse just wasnt long enough to use as a total inventory, but the ship was 450 feet long and about five stories high.... so lots of room for the fleshly animals.

But yea, the dinosaurs died in the Flood...as dinosaurs roamed with humans before the flood as evidenced by human footprints alongside of dinosaur ones in the fossil record... and Yes a few dinosaur like leviathon animals or dinosaurs or Lochness monsters did survive in the waters of the flood.

We saw one, HERE in Canada.

But NO, dinosaurs were not hit in the head, by asteriods as evolutionists teach, nor did they have bad luck in the gene mutations, nor did their water sources dry up... in a slow slow environmental change.

Yes, they died in the Flood.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay
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Message 40 of 59 (805554)
04-19-2017 9:13 AM


Multiple Mutations at ONE TIME ????
Chetahs have numerous backbone adaptions, mutations or gifts created by their Creator which enables them to run fast and focus on their prey and take them down, for their food.

So lets get back on topic.

Evolutionists say a mutation changes an animal in this case, a chetah, one step at a time rather than a whole bunch of them having their lucky mutations all happen at once. I agree, if their was such a thing as a magic beneficial mutation, it could surely only happen one at a time..... in a miraculous conception. But then it means the chettah would have to wait eons for the next magic mutation to enable its eyesight mutation to just happen along by chance. Now thats pushing it, but thats what I think the rather fearful and ashamed evolutionists believe.

Multiple magic mutations, the 3M's all at once, in thier minds must have created a new cat different than the lion in multiple ways, that all combined at one time made them fast and FURIOUS.

Sorry evolutionists, your theory again makes no sense, whether one mutation at a time or multiple mutations eon after eon.

In the HERE and NOW, no saen person should buy your product or word play.

IMO

David

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 41 of 59 (805556)
04-19-2017 9:15 AM
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04-19-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Dinosaurs
The Loch Ness monster now ? Nothing like Nessie to boost the old credibility, I always say.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 42 of 59 (805557)
04-19-2017 9:16 AM
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Re: Multiple Mutations at ONE TIME ????
...but thats what I think the rather fearful and ashamed evolutionists believe

I've been reading your weird, psychotic diatribes for some time now, so at this point I can only recommend that you call 1-310-6789.


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Davidjay
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Message 43 of 59 (805563)
04-19-2017 9:37 AM
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04-19-2017 9:15 AM


Re: Loch Ness Dinosaurs
We saw what we saw.... its called Okkie HERE, as these ones are in the Okanogan Lake System.

But let me comment on your strange ' signature ' as it is significant in its displaying your mindset of not knowing and not caring to know... You write ..... Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?' End of your signature

Your nobody knows mantra is what evolutionists teach each other, we dont know, so lets guess and Ill theorise on top of your theory and then well force it on other theorists, so nobody knows nothing.

No, we can know the facts of life, and science and math, and how everything fits together.

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It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the honor of kings to find them out..

So YES, some things are slightly hidden, but it is to your HONOR if you take the time to find them out. Dont be lazy and lethargic and negative. Get busy and find some truths, and add precept to precept, until you start to SEE.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 44 of 59 (805565)
04-19-2017 9:46 AM
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Re: Loch Ness Dinosaurs
Davidjay writes:

No, we can know the facts of life, and science and math, and how everything fits together

Hi Davidjay, I do not think anyone disputes this. I do not think we can know the absolute, nor can we know the why.

We may know the answer to how something came about or operates but to speculate why leads us to the realm of religion imo.


"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 45 of 59 (805590)
04-19-2017 12:18 PM
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04-19-2017 9:13 AM


Re: Multiple Mutations at ONE TIME ????
Chetahs have numerous backbone adaptions, mutations or gifts created by their Creator which enables them to run fast and focus on their prey and take them down, for their food.

Wait a minute... I thought all animals were created as herbivores. Why did cheetahs need this marvelous backbone system to chase down mangoes? Were mangoes faster back then than they are now?

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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