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Message 46 of 59 (805591)
04-19-2017 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Davidjay
04-19-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Dinosaurs
and Yes a few dinosaur like leviathon animals or dinosaurs or Lochness monsters did survive in the waters of the flood.

Now wait a minute... the Bible clearly states that all living things that moved on the face of the earth were killed by the flood. But you say that some dinosaurs manged to escape the flood waters? So you are saying the Bible was incorrect that all living creatures died?

I understand that some try to claim that only those animals with the "breath of life" perished and organisms like fish and plants survived, but dinosaurs????

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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Message 47 of 59 (805592)
04-19-2017 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by herebedragons
04-19-2017 12:26 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
hbd writes:

I understand that some try to claim that only those animals with the "breath of life" perished and organisms like fish and plants survived, but dinosaurs????

Were you there? Did you see dinosaurs breathe.

Or are you relying on evidence; things like physical structure and genetics?


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herebedragons
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Message 48 of 59 (805593)
04-19-2017 12:50 PM
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04-19-2017 12:41 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Were you there? Did you see dinosaurs breathe.

That's true, I have been operating under that stupid, evil assumption.

So here's my breakthrough in understanding

a) all creatures with the breath of life perished in the flood

b) some dinosaurs escaped the flood waters and survived into the modern age

new scientific fact: dinosaurs were water breathers... like fish

It's all so obvious and logical

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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Message 49 of 59 (805604)
04-19-2017 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by herebedragons
04-19-2017 12:50 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
What is this silliness?

That's true, I have been operating under that stupid, evil assumption.
So here's my breakthrough in understanding
a) all creatures with the breath of life perished in the flood
b) some dinosaurs escaped the flood waters and survived into the modern age
new scientific fact: dinosaurs were water breathers... like fish
It's all so obvious and logical

(b) Some dinosaurs survived on the ark, but didn't do well in the new climate after the Flood, although as someone pointed out some of them survived long enough to give rise to all the dragon stories. None of them "survived into the modern age."
Water breathers? What?


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Message 50 of 59 (805612)
04-19-2017 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Faith
04-19-2017 2:50 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Oh Faith, Faith...god put the dinosaurs on the ark to save them, but miscalculated the climate change effect of his flood which killed them?

What's wrong with this picture?


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 51 of 59 (805614)
04-19-2017 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Tangle
04-19-2017 3:05 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Nothing.
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Message 52 of 59 (805616)
04-19-2017 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Davidjay
04-19-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Dinosaurs
Davidjay writes:

Yea, one verse just wasnt long enough to use as a total inventory....


There's no "inventory". It says, "every living thing of all flesh." No exceptions.

Davidjay writes:

But yea, the dinosaurs died in the Flood...


Nope, that isn't what the Bible says. The whole purpose of the ark was to preserve every kind of animal (and humans).

Davidjay writes:

... and Yes a few dinosaur like leviathon animals or dinosaurs or Lochness monsters did survive in the waters of the flood.


Nope, that isn't what the Bible says. Nothing outside the ark survived the flood (except plants).

It's downright comical how Bible "literalists" mangle the Bible.


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Message 53 of 59 (805628)
04-19-2017 3:44 PM
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04-19-2017 3:06 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Faith writes:

Nothing

Your god makes mistakes?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 54 of 59 (805630)
04-19-2017 3:46 PM
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04-19-2017 3:44 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Tangle writes:

Your god makes mistakes?

According to what is written in the Bible, yes, the god character does make mistakes quite often.


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Message 55 of 59 (805635)
04-19-2017 4:08 PM
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04-19-2017 3:46 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Yeh, but, but, but.....pfnnrrr.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 56 of 59 (805636)
04-19-2017 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Faith
04-19-2017 2:50 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
What is this silliness?

Just that, Faith, silliness.

Some dinosaurs survived on the ark, but didn't do well in the new climate after the Flood, although as someone pointed out some of them survived long enough to give rise to all the dragon stories. None of them "survived into the modern age."

Then your argument is with DavidJay. Here is what he said

DavidJay writes:

and Yes a few dinosaur like leviathon animals or dinosaurs or Lochness monsters did survive in the waters of the flood.

Not "on the ark", but "in the waters of the flood."

So I take it you agree that that statement is silly and deserving of mockery. Good.

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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Message 57 of 59 (805637)
04-19-2017 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Tangle
04-19-2017 3:05 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
god put the dinosaurs on the ark to save them, but miscalculated the climate change effect of his flood which killed them?

They rapidly adapted to the new climate and today we know them as birds.

HBD


Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca

"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.

Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.


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Message 58 of 59 (805638)
04-19-2017 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by herebedragons
04-19-2017 4:17 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
HBD writes:

They rapidly adapted to the new climate and today we know them as birds.

Phew, thanks for that, for a moment there, I thought Faith had got it all wrong.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 59 of 59 (805639)
04-19-2017 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by herebedragons
04-19-2017 4:17 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
hbd writes:

Tangle writes:

god put the dinosaurs on the ark to save them, but miscalculated the climate change effect of his flood which killed them?

They rapidly adapted to the new climate and today we know them as birds.

HBD

The TRUTH™ is Noah sent his not too bright son to get dinosaurs and on the road he met a magic bunny who sold him magic Dino Eggs. Noah's not too bright son ran all the way back and just got through the door before it was sealed shut. But the magic Dino eggs were actually just rocks.

Once the door was sealed shut all Noah's neighbors came out and started beating on the Ark and squirting water on it and rocking it back and forth, laughing all the while. After funnin' the family for over a month they all left and got on with their lives.

Time passed and after a year life inside the Ark was getting pretty foul so Noah opened a window to get some fresh air. Some of the birds flew out and since it had been a year since they had had anything worth eating brought back some to share with the other birds.

Noah looked out and seeing dry land and all the grape vines that had grown over the Ark in the year they hid inside called it a vineyard.

The rocks never hatched which is why we never see any Dinos.

And all the people laughed and laughed.


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