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Davidjay 
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Message 256 of 353 (807783)
05-05-2017 12:16 PM


Sex evolved magically at one time ????
“Please establish how evolution could have ever simulataneously mutated different genders, at the same time magically so they fit together magically and reproduce perfectly as can be seen today.”

I don't know how sexual reproduction began. But I don't think anyone argues that it came about by sudden and spontanious compatible penis and vagina mutations in fish or trilobites or something. Sexual reproduction has been about for a very long time, long before complex organisms evolved. I don't find it rouses that much incredulity in me to think of some kind of other reproductive behaviour could evolve into what we see as sexual reproduction.

Wow, an evolutionists answered a question.

Thanks, even though your anser is basically you dont know how sex evolved...... it was just instanteous luck and chance... inch by inch or centimeter by centimeter for the Europeans.

But because you answered a sexual question, a reproduction question, lets start a new TOPIC called the Supposed Evolution of Sex.....

Biology is reproduction, and so lets discuss this basic method of re-creating..... whether by design or just by fortunate luck.

SEE you there if the Admin agrees, or sees it as another losing topic for evolutionists to particpate IN... or out of, or IN and then OUT.

Whewee, evolutionists must be taught everything, when it should have been their originally in their genes. Lets give'em a little sex education... Amen ?

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Chiroptera
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Message 257 of 353 (807800)
05-05-2017 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Davidjay
05-05-2017 12:16 PM


Re: Sex evolved magically at one time ????
So, are you done talking about racism?

Freedom is merely privilege extended, unless enjoyed by one and all. – Billy Bragg

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Davidjay 
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Message 258 of 353 (807886)
05-06-2017 11:07 AM
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05-05-2017 1:32 PM


Re: I hate racism !
Am I done talking about racism... ANSWER NO, I hate racism to the core, from its origins in writing and evolution to its effects on people and races and killing.

My family hated me for becoming a missionary after graduating from University, even though I paid my way there via a four year athletic scholarship. And my family outcast me further when I married a brown woman, and started reproducing half white and half brown children. They deemed them 'inferior' and unacceptable in the family, so repelled us from their circle.

I know racism personally, I know how racist the Wst has been to my children, and to my wife.

Yet I also know how some countries have been discriminatory against me for being white, other scountries favoring me for being white. Eiother way it is wrong, I am merely a human and equal, not superior or inferior to any other human.

Heart and soul and love determines the individual and not mere colour of the skin or bloodlines etc etc etc...

I have lots to say abotu racism and my experiences.

As John Paul said, I have not yet begun to fight...!!!! begun to fight racism, it is vile and hurtful and kills.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 259 of 353 (807888)
05-06-2017 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by Davidjay
05-06-2017 11:07 AM


Re: I hate racism !
... I am merely a human and equal, not superior or inferior to any other human. ...

Curiously, all evolution "says" about branching lines of descent is that each branch is equally evolved, not superior or inferior to any other branch.

Racism is a judgement on a group that one is superior or inferior to the other. Evolution makes no judgement and thus cannot be racist.

Not understanding this doesn't make evolution racist, it merely makes the person saying it misinformed.

That you have perpetuated this misinformation for this length of a thread is truly a monument to stubborn denial of reality, and it has nothing to do with racism.

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Message 260 of 353 (807894)
05-06-2017 12:03 PM
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05-06-2017 11:07 AM


Re: I hate racism !
I am sorry for what you and your family had to endure. I hope you have been able to overcome the worst of your adversity and wish you all the strength to endure what remains. It remains my hope that we, as a society, can move closer to one where no one is judged based on their race.

Freedom is merely privilege extended, unless enjoyed by one and all. – Billy Bragg

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Davidjay 
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Message 261 of 353 (807952)
05-07-2017 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 260 by Chiroptera
05-06-2017 12:03 PM


Re: I hate racism !
Thanks we are in total agreement Chir... on this and surely other principles. Maybe many more than we suspect.

Because Yes, racism is not a theoritcal debate for those that have experienced it and suffered from it. Its real and its literally in the hearts of those that have low self esteem and want to prop it up with false pride (this whether male or female).

Experience is much stronger than theory. As mentioned real scientists prove their theories and test them in real life, and then they can speak from experience and KNOWledge.

And if we search our own hearts, as well, then we can prevent racist thoughts and pride entering in, or being acted upon.

I thought I was the great in shape fit athlete when doing exercise training with babes in Christ ..... I learned directly from the Lord NOT to be arrogant or proud..

From http://www.davidjayjordan.com/MyBackandMypride.html

My Back and my Pride

After leaving Christian service, I returned to Canada, and got a job as a fishing guide in
the mountains of British Columbia. I used to love fishing but soon found out I no longer had
the desire to catch those kinds of fish anymore. Nothing felt the same, the woods, the lakes,
the smells, the excitement and adventure. So I quite my job and went to the Pacific Ocean to
try and rearrange my priorities and get my life back together. And it was there in the surf at
sundown, that I pulled out a drown man (See Fishing dead Men testimony), and then quickly
drove to Vancouver, Canada to rejoin Christian Service
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They soon sent me to a training farm, to ground me in the Lord’s words.. We had
several Bible classes a day as well as normal maintenance work in keeping up the school. It
was then that someone got the bright idea, that we should all start the day with exercise
classes to get us in shape..

Yea, right, don't they know I was a world-class athlete (says I) silently in my little mind.
(See Basketball for Jesus Testimony) Oh well, I can play this silly game. I won't say anything,
but this is so easy and they are so out of shape.. Jumping jacks ...how basic... I could do a
hundred of them in a minute. Sit-ups how ridiculous anyone can do these, I'll show them ....

Ouch, wham, extreme pain, as I pulled my back muscles instantly when my PRIDE was at
its full. Boom, I was unceremoniously judged by the LORD and I knew it without question. I
writhed in pain and agony on the school room floor…..I was totally humbled as all had to
stop the class and minister to my severely pulled back muscles. It was definitely no laughing
matter as they carried me to bed where I stayed all day in excruciating pain.

Yet within a few days, I was able to stand up and using a couple of belts to secure a pillow
on my back to help me in walk again.. I looked like hell and was totally abased in humility.
WHY, because I deserved it and the Lord knew it and all the brethren realized it after I told
them why I had been judged.

Yet Thank God I did get better and started to walk a little more humbly with my God, and
have a little more Fear of God NOT just in my actions but in my thoughts. For it is there
that all pride starts up, so THANK the LORD, He judged me early and has continued to
judge me whenever I think I am great in the flesh.

Great athlete right ?? It's all by the Grace of God , so we better walk in the FEAR of GOD
or his mighty hand might fall not-so-gently on us and guide us into better behavior, as only a
loving Father knows how..

In His sometimes Painful Service (Oh my aching back)

Jay


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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evolutionfacts
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Message 262 of 353 (808004)
05-08-2017 1:14 AM


Evolution does not suggest a "superior race." It explains adaptability to different environments. The concept of "superiority" is at best a straw man argument.

Edited by evolutionfacts, : No reason given.


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Message 263 of 353 (808006)
05-08-2017 1:40 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by Davidjay
05-05-2017 12:16 PM


Re: Sex evolved magically at one time ????
Ah I see. Googled "Evolution of sex" and nothing popped up.
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Message 264 of 353 (808076)
05-08-2017 12:01 PM
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05-08-2017 1:14 AM


Evolution does not suggest a "superior race." It explains adaptability to different environments. The concept of "superiority" is at best a straw man argument.

Your semantics and word twisting and denials shows the guilt of your theory, as you try to dismiss it in the courts of justice.

Evolutionists like their theory are very evasive, they make up new terms and definitions,as well as making up new theories on their main one. For THEN they can try to evade 'superiority' branches by saying they are more viable and that their god does not say anything such thing, as their god never wrote it down..... but only supposedly proposed it and did it via his or her magic beneficial mutations. Their mutations they say, can not speak for themselves so they give them a vocie, that denies 'superiority' and their useage by racists.

PS) Adaptability is not a god, adaptations come from the original abilities and traits and instincts and qualities given at conception by the Creator. Adaption is not a god, even though evolutionists sneak it in their via their so called non random God of Selection

SEE Debunking the God of Selection thread

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 265 of 353 (808079)
05-08-2017 12:09 PM
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05-08-2017 1:40 AM


Re: Sex evolved magically at one time ????
No, the evolutionists try to explain sex via a one celled fungus or something or other... do check out their ridicuolous branching from a one celled 'whatever'. Its a lugh, but evolutionists take it very seriously

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-CA&source=hp&biw=&bih=...

I must propose a new thread called the Evolution of Sex... I mean basic biology is all about reproductivity, and evolutionists think it all started with an asexual one celled fungus or 'whatever'.

But others would have to propose this topic, as my topics seldom get promoted


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 266 of 353 (808082)
05-08-2017 12:17 PM
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05-08-2017 12:01 PM


PS) Adaptability is not a god, adaptations come from the original abilities and traits and instincts and qualities given at conception by the Creator. Adaption is not a god, even though evolutionists sneak it in their via their so called non random God of Selection

Um because E. coli long-term evolution experiment celarly show that there can be no brand new adaptations, like say e coli being able to suddenly eat on citrate with air present, only one group though at around 31 000 generations. the experiment is still running it is at about 70 000 generations now.

It took 2 mutations to make this possible.

Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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Message 267 of 353 (808098)
05-08-2017 12:52 PM
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05-06-2017 11:07 AM


Re: I hate racism !
Davidjay writes:

Am I done talking about racism... ANSWER NO, I hate racism to the core, from its origins in writing and evolution to its effects on people and races and killing.
My family hated me for becoming a missionary after graduating from University, even though I paid my way there via a four year athletic scholarship. And my family outcast me further when I married a brown woman, and started reproducing half white and half brown children. They deemed them 'inferior' and unacceptable in the family, so repelled us from their circle.

I know racism personally, I know how racist the Wst has been to my children, and to my wife.

Yet I also know how some countries have been discriminatory against me for being white, other scountries favoring me for being white. Eiother way it is wrong, I am merely a human and equal, not superior or inferior to any other human.

Heart and soul and love determines the individual and not mere colour of the skin or bloodlines etc etc etc...

I have lots to say abotu racism and my experiences.

As John Paul said, I have not yet begun to fight...!!!! begun to fight racism, it is vile and hurtful and kills.

I am still not seeing how you come to the conclusion that evolution is racist. Care to enlighten us?


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Message 268 of 353 (808099)
05-08-2017 12:53 PM
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05-08-2017 12:09 PM


Re: Sex evolved magically at one time ????
Davidjay writes:

No, the evolutionists try to explain sex via a one celled fungus or something or other... do check out their ridicuolous branching from a one celled 'whatever'. Its a lugh, but evolutionists take it very seriously
https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-CA&source=hp&biw=&bih=...

I must propose a new thread called the Evolution of Sex... I mean basic biology is all about reproductivity, and evolutionists think it all started with an asexual one celled fungus or 'whatever'.

But others would have to propose this topic, as my topics seldom get promoted

What does this have to do with evolution being racist?


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Message 269 of 353 (808375)
05-10-2017 12:11 PM
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05-08-2017 12:53 PM


Re: Sex evolved magically at one time ????
Sex is definitely not something evolutionists would want to talk about, let alone discuss, but obviously their parents must have learned about this or experienced it personally.

Yes I wish we could discuss it as evolutionists would have to admit that their theory doesn't work in real life. Ha hit and miss chance usually doesnt work in such a field of expertise, you learn you have to be IN IT to win it, or make products or recreate or multiply like the Good Sex Book states,

So lets get back in showing how evolution is a racist doctrine

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On the other thread today, they stated that color change in a moth is proof of evolution, and that I must admit this and comply and answer accordingly. NO I differ.

Color change in humans still makes browns, blacks and whites all equal. Color does not effect our KIND, we remain equal.... even though logically evolutionists according to their theory states we bracnh out and differ.

Equality wins, racism loses

SEE thread called Science is a revealed fact or something similiar.. for details of evolutionists contradictions and esperate proofs.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 270 of 353 (808377)
05-10-2017 12:12 PM
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05-10-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Sex evolved magically at one time ????
Sex is definitely not something evolutionists would want to talk about, let alone discuss ...

That is a stupid lie.

Whom do you hope to deceive by telling it?

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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