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Genomicus
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Message 16 of 391 (805099)
04-15-2017 4:30 PM
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Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
My head is literally hurting trying to make sense of that convoluted, tortuously winding response.
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Message 17 of 391 (805100)
04-15-2017 5:06 PM
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04-15-2017 12:12 PM


Dr Adequate writes:

Well he does seem to have rejected evolution in favor of God doing magic. He may not have been a full-on believer in talking snakes but I think that qualifies him as a creationist.

Hitler was a demagogue who crafted his writings (primarily Mein Kampf) and speeches by selecting among arguments for those that seemed to work. What he said before an audience mostly reflected choices of what he thought effective rather than what he actually believed. The passage you quoted in Message 9 is from a April 12, 1922, speech and has often been used to argue that Hitler was Christian, but this was merely how he courted Christian support. Most historians conclude that Hitler was areligious.

--Percy


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Message 18 of 391 (805103)
04-15-2017 5:19 PM
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04-15-2017 10:47 AM


The "Origin of Species" that first made it to Nazi Germany
I think Davidjay may have Germany during WWII in mind.

The following is recycled from here:

Minnemooseus writes:

Found this via Answers in Genesis Busted.

Which links to this commentary at Panda's Thumb.

The quote of the PT commentary that was posted at the AIGBusted site:

quote:
"[W]hat reached Germany was not the English version of Origin of Species, it was a translation by German paleontologist Heinrich Georg Bronn that was a main source of German notions of Darwinian evolution, and those notions were a distortion of Darwin's views. Bronn had a substantially different conception of evolution than Darwin, and Bronn's translation apparently incorporated a good bit of his own conception rather than being a straight translation of Darwin. Bronn even added an extra chapter to OoS incorporate his own ideas."

I had previously recycled the message to another topic, here. There I was responding to a message that contained:

Mr. Factnet writes:

Ham even equates justification for racial discrimination to evolutionary theory in his book "One Blood." He plays the Hitler card by saying this kind of thinking “inspired Hitler in his quest to eliminate Jews and Gypsies.” Typical "reductio ad Hitlerum" tactic.

Added by edit: I recommend reading further at that topic, from Mr. Factnet's message onward.

Moose

Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit.


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Message 19 of 391 (805106)
04-15-2017 5:37 PM
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04-15-2017 11:15 AM


Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
Agreed, as honest Percy admits it. Evolutionists or hit and missers, dont usually run for political office because although talkers and into semantics, as good politicians are mere talkers who tickle the ears of the majority. Evolutionists basically stay out of the field of politics, or power mongering, and stay tucked away in a field of so called science where only their fellow religionists or evolutionists understand the supposed true meaning of their religion, I mean supposed science.
At least this is what they say.

Yea and hitler was also Catholic with his whole one land one people one religion thing germens being the chosen people ... Soldiers had god with us on their belt buckles ....

If anything evolution is anti racist because we are less different then you think if you look at our genome.

There is no race in evolutionary terms taxinomics goes like this life, domain, kingdom, philyum, class, order, family, genus, species. And whites, blacks, hispanics, .... all fall under the same ones.

In the end its like e=mc2, it just is, what you do with that information counts you can power the world or destroy it. If you think that those 30% that evolved the superpower to eat dairy are the master race superior to the unevolved lactose intolerant's that's your problem the theory of evolution does not care it just is. But in the end thousands or millions of years from now it will be the judge on who got to pass on their genes. Even if a new hitler comes and kills off every lactose intolernat if the chance of passing on your genes is higher sooner or later someone will be borne lactose intolerant and he or she will pass on his genes to the population at a higher rate then lactose tolerants and sooner or later the whole population will be lactose intolerant.


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What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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Message 20 of 391 (805151)
04-16-2017 10:22 AM
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04-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
Percy wrotye ....""Hitler was a demagogue who crafted his writings (primarily Mein Kampf) and speeches by selecting among arguments for those that seemed to work. What he said before an audience mostly reflected choices of what he thought effective rather than what he actually believed. The passage you quoted in Message 9 is from a April 12, 1922, speech and has often been used to argue that Hitler was Christian, but this was merely how he courted Christian support. Most historians conclude that Hitler was areligious.""

All dictators and so called democratic leaders always use the church or other religious group to support and sponsor their dementia, to get the spirits of their people behind their war efforts. But this thread is not about trying to label Hitler, but see that he among so many others used evolutoion as one of its tenets to get his German people into thinking they were the Great RACE and PURE RACE and DIVINE SUPERIOR BRANCH. He wanted pure bloodlines as other nationalististic and religious governments demand of their people.

Its straight from the textbooks of evolutionary theory which says the human race was a branch and continues to branch off into different races. THIS IS THE BASIS of nationalism, and zealot religiousity.

Evolutionists pretend thier theory has no consequences and no applications just pure science. But in truth, it is a basis for war among branches. Mentally, whether subconscious or consciously, vile leaders use it to enrage their populations, and populations love the philosphy of them being superior to other nationalities or religions.

Evolution is a racist doctrime that is used by the racists.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 21 of 391 (805154)
04-16-2017 10:27 AM
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04-16-2017 10:22 AM


Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
Its straight from the textbooks of evolutionary theory which says the human race was a branch and continues to branch off into different races.

Do you say different?

What is your alternative --- that God separately created the various races?


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Message 22 of 391 (805156)
04-16-2017 10:28 AM
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04-15-2017 5:37 PM


Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
Aggreed Fracko, it depends what you do with the fake science or the true science.... all words and theories or facts can and do have an impact on peoples minds, and then ACTIONS.

Ask Einstein, study Einstein and e=mc2. He was a great thinker who demanded answers from the Lord and got them by using his God given brains, and dedication. But his true discoveries of what already was and was already created, and discoveries into light speed and time etc... lead to the atomic bomb.

Hence Einstein turned to philosphy after he naively helped create the atomic bomb. And again naively thought that such a powerful bomb would never be used by mankind, but he was WRONG, very WRONG.

Scierntists, naive scientists have to consider how evil men and women can use their theories against mankind, and yet these naive scientists try to wash their hands of their guilt.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 23 of 391 (805159)
04-16-2017 10:34 AM
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04-16-2017 10:22 AM


Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
Davidjay who obviously has never read the Bible writes:

Its straight from the textbooks of evolutionary theory which says the human race was a branch and continues to branch off into different races. THIS IS THE BASIS of nationalism, and zealot religiousity.

Actually, according to the Bible the basis of nationalism was an intentional act of the Biblical God. Don't blame the Theory of Evolution when the Biblical God admitted causing the split-up of mankind into different nations and factions.

Genesis 11:1-9 writes:

11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Sorry Charley; looks like it was the Biblical God that screwed everything up again.


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Message 24 of 391 (805162)
04-16-2017 10:43 AM
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Re: Agreed, evolution is used for racial hatred
Scierntists, naive scientists have to consider how evil men and women can use their theories against mankind, and yet these naive scientists try to wash their hands of their guilt.

Which would be like Christians trying to wash their hands of the guilt of all the evil done in the name of Christianity, amirite?


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Message 25 of 391 (805169)
04-16-2017 12:06 PM
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04-16-2017 10:28 AM


Suppression of inconvenient facts?
Scierntists, naive scientists have to consider how evil men and women can use their theories against mankind, and yet these naive scientists try to wash their hands of their guilt.

Scientists are concerned with discovering the truth of the world around us. Their theories are their best analysis of how the world around us works. What should be the proper response of a scientist if they realize that their discoveries might be misused by evil people?


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Message 26 of 391 (805171)
04-16-2017 3:30 PM
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04-16-2017 10:34 AM


Jar you dont know the Bible or True History
The Tower of Babel fiasco which you reference as the start of nationalism, is a very important lesson, as together with the ONE LANGUAGE the Lord gave the ONE PEOPLE on EARTH (Via Adam and Eve, and the lineages we have painstakingly verified) these people were too powerful in doing evil, so that the Lord did have to separate them by giving them different languages so they wouldn't work together for evil.

Just like today, when the NWO will unite all the worlds people, via small wars to supposedly bring peace to all the WORLD.... and the people will get sucked in and follow. Dont you know your Bible and True History, Jar.

The giving of different languages, by the Lord God was miraculous and did divide people for a while, but their war mongering ways, eventually comes back to the forfront. Without the Lords love, they just cant help themselves from being greedy, and selfish and war mongering.

Happy Easter Jar, the Messiah has come to bring Peace which is why ONLY HE IS THE PRINCE OF PEACE.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 27 of 391 (805172)
04-16-2017 3:33 PM
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04-16-2017 12:06 PM


Evolutionists are not scientists
Scientists Yes, discover ther laws of the Lord that exist and have always existed straight from the BEginning... as we have discovered in my Have LAWS evolved thread.

But evolutionists are not true scientists, their theory according to them and any honest scientist ONLY applies ONLY to biology. They have no idea, the destructive behaviour their theory brings in the hearts and actions of the believers in evolution.

Never imply that evolutionists are true scientists. They are a cult or a branch or an offshoot, or just dumb theorists. They have discovered nothing but their theory has destroyed an immense amount.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 28 of 391 (805173)
04-16-2017 3:35 PM
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Re: Jar you dont know the Bible or True History
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil, but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
― Steven Weinberg
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Message 29 of 391 (805174)
04-16-2017 3:44 PM
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04-16-2017 3:33 PM


Re: Evolutionists are not scientists
But evolutionists are not true scientists, their theory according to them and any honest scientist ONLY applies ONLY to biology.

Never imply that evolutionists are true scientists. They are a cult or a branch or an offshoot, or just dumb theorists.

Has anyone told you lately that you're spouting pure bull****?

By the way, my Ph.D. track was half in the fields of fossil man and human osteology, but included a lot of study of human races.

I've been there and know what's going on in some of the "evolutionist" fields of study, and it makes it really easy to spot your ignorant, bigoted bull****.


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Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

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It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 30 of 391 (805175)
04-16-2017 3:47 PM
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04-16-2017 3:33 PM


Re: Evolutionists are not scientists
Hi, Davidjay.

You didn't really answer my question. Let me rephrase it:

Suppose that a scientist makes a new discovery or formulates a new theory that she believes explains the relevant data. Or, if you prefer, she believes that she has made a new discovery or she develops a new theory that she believes explains the data.

She comes to the realization that evil people may use her discovery for evil purposes.

How should she react?

Edited by Chiroptera, : Corrected a typo.


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