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Davidjay 
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Message 316 of 391 (809095)
05-16-2017 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 315 by jar
05-16-2017 10:16 AM


Re: Add to the discussion...
4.Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.

I win, Jar and almost all evolutionists refuse to answer questions, and refuse to participate in the topic, that evolution is a racist doctrine.

We can put this proven thread in Summation mode even though I am not allowed to start any new victorious provable threads.

SUMMATION MODE PLEASE.


Evolutyionists are used to forcing their theory on students and scientists. They are not used to answering any questions on this theory, because it is their religion. And as a religion it must be accepted by faith.... It is not science and it is not logical or rational and has no facts behind it. Evolution is a con and a LIE. A big one, but because it is forced on the gullible and on students, they must accept it. This their modus operandi...and so when faced with sane biological opposition, they can only be subjective rather than objective.

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Message 317 of 391 (809096)
05-16-2017 10:24 AM
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05-16-2017 10:21 AM


Re: Add to the discussion...
I win, Jar and almost all evolutionists refuse to answer questions, and refuse to participate in the topic, that evolution is a racist doctrine.

We have refuted your nonsense, and shown your preaching to be false.

You lose. Again.


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Message 318 of 391 (809101)
05-16-2017 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 314 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 9:54 AM


Re: David On Duty
Davidjay writes:

Percy oversimplified my case and my victorious debate, as I explained thoroughly why evolution is a branching, and then was amazed that evolutionists denied their own branching theory.
I was amazed they thought treeshrews were our ancestors, and that bats are our cousins or brotherrs on their evolutionary tree which they say is science and fact... and not just an artists depiction.

They hate it when I reinforce my claim and further prove my claim and truth. Its obvious and common sense as evolution is the cornerstone philosphu of evolution.

They answer few questions except that they think we came from tree shrews, and then start denying even that. Evolutionists are elusive and non committal except among their own congregation talking about their theory in support of other theories for the THEORY of Evolution. Otherwise they arswer no questions posed to them and get very angry and out of control as illustrated HEREIN.

Heres that hyper for you.... because some evolutionists cant read it... and its about how evolutionists try to use the old old trick of asking but never answering anythking themselves.

We are still waiting for you to explain why evolution is racist.


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Message 319 of 391 (809121)
05-16-2017 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 316 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 10:21 AM


Re: Add to the discussion...
Davidjay writes:

I win, Jar and almost all evolutionists refuse to answer questions, and refuse to participate in the topic, that evolution is a racist doctrine.

And there you go lying yet again.

This happens to be a topic YOU started. You asserted that " Evolution is a racist doctrine " yet you have provided absolutely NO support for that utterly stupid assertion while 28 people have responded to you showing why your assertion is simply false, ignorant and sophomoric.

You do understand David that folk can actually read the thread and see that you once again utterly failed to support or even discuss your own topic?

What a loser!


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Message 320 of 391 (809124)
05-16-2017 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 316 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 10:21 AM


Re: Add to the discussion...
SUMMATION MODE PLEASE.

That actually might be a good idea.


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Message 321 of 391 (809133)
05-16-2017 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 314 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 9:54 AM


Re: David On Duty
Davidjay writes:

They hate it when I reinforce my claim and further prove my claim and truth.

Except you have never reinforced your claim. Stating your false claim over and over and over does nothing to strengthen it. It just shows us that you really have nothing to support your claim.

Davidjay writes:

Its obvious and common sense as evolution is the cornerstone philosphu of evolution.

Read this out loud to yourself a couple times. Notice the problem?

What is obvious and common sense is that you do not know how to express anything obvious or common sense.

Davidjay writes:

evolution is the cornerstone philosphu of evolution.

Really, THIS is common sense?

Ignorance and stupidity is the cornerstone of Davidjay's argument.

You say "evolution is a racist doctrine" and we say "how, show us?" and you say a whole bunch of gibberish and then "evolution is a racist doctrine" and we disagree and say"how, show us?"

See the problem yet?

So far all we have from you is "blah blah jesus blah blah".

For a preacher, you are the worst communicator I have ever seen.

Oh yeah, we win you lose! Loser!

Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.


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Message 322 of 391 (809160)
05-16-2017 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 9:54 AM


Davidjay Suspended 24 Hours
Davidjay writes:

I was amazed they thought treeshrews were our ancestors,...
...
They answer few questions except that they think we came from tree shrews,...

No one said we came from tree shrews. I'm going to begin suspending you for 24 hours each time you make this statement, or any statement clearly at odds with what people have said.


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Message 323 of 391 (809264)
05-17-2017 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 9:54 AM


Re: David On Duty
Percy oversimplified my case and my victorious debate

Now that you've won, can we end this? Summation mode. Please.


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Message 324 of 391 (809310)
05-17-2017 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by NoNukes
05-17-2017 3:09 PM


Re: Creationism wins, racism loses
Evolutionists dont know where we came from, so evade the question....and use semantics to cover up their huge gaps in their theory.

Their trees are artists conceptions and do NOT show what evolved from what, but rather groups which should have existed and possibly have parented other groups. Its full of MISSING LINKS and their tree branching is just a classification system of maube might have, could have been ancestors, that might have could be or might be found, but sadly all went extionct or were just imaginations of an evolutionists mind. This is why they debate classifications endlessly among themselves...why because they have no proofs, no cause and effect, no parentage lineage.
Its just semantics as mentioned..... well call this branch para-primates, because there is no animal called paraprimates, its just a label, a make-believe group of animals that should have been around to form future primates.

First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews


Evolutyionists are used to forcing their theory on students and scientists. They are not used to answering any questions on this theory, because it is their religion. And as a religion it must be accepted by faith.... It is not science and it is not logical or rational and has no facts behind it. Evolution is a con and a LIE. A big one, but because it is forced on the gullible and on students, they must accept it. This their modus operandi...and so when faced with sane biological opposition, they can only be subjective rather than objective.

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Message 325 of 391 (809317)
05-17-2017 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by Davidjay
05-17-2017 7:03 PM


Re: Creationism wins, racism loses
Davidjay writes:

First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews

You realise that you're heading for a ban don't you? What kind idiot does the same idiotic thing twice knowing the consequencies?

A big one I guess.


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Message 326 of 391 (809320)
05-17-2017 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by Davidjay
05-17-2017 7:03 PM


"First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews"
First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews

Intentionally repeating a comment that has been shown to be a false portrayal of what people have said is a lie.

Their trees are artists conceptions and do NOT show what evolved from what, but rather groups which should have existed and possibly have parented other groups. Its full of MISSING LINKS and their tree branching is just a classification system of maube might have, could have been ancestors, that might have could be or might be found, but sadly all went extionct or were just imaginations of an evolutionists mind. This is why they debate classifications endlessly among themselves...why because they have no proofs, no cause and effect, no parentage lineage.

Says the person ignorant of genetics and morphology.

Amusingly what the discussion involves is decent from a common ancestor, just as creationists claim all life descended from original kinds. They are scared to actually look at what those original kinds look like in the fossil and genetic records, scared to follow their belief.

Creationists should welcome the effort scientists put into developing clades of descent, because that is exactly how descent from original kinds would occur, but they are scared that the evidence will not validate their beliefs, so they mock and chide and dissemble and lie.

Its just semantics as mentioned..... well call this branch para-primates, because there is no animal called paraprimates, its just a label, a make-believe group of animals that should have been around to form future primates.

Please provide the names and descriptions for all the purported original kinds, and then show how species alive today descended from those original kinds.

Davidjay never provides real answers to questions posed to him, just another non-sequitur diversion. You can check this out by looking at the index for each thread, a tool that also shows his frequent claim of never being answered to be another falsehood.


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Message 327 of 391 (809326)
05-17-2017 7:40 PM
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05-17-2017 7:28 PM


Re: "First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews"
Where did humans come from Raz ?

Being told to "Fuck you I can fucking write whatever I want" by CatsEye to me is against the rules of civil debate, ) at http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=17167&mpp=1... ...message 145 )but this board says otherewise and allows evolutionists do write such vulgar comments without punishment.

Evolutionists are used to forcing their theory on students and scientists. They are not used to answering any questions on this theory, because it is their religion. And as a religion it must be accepted by faith.... It is not science and it is not logical or rational and has no facts behind it. Evolution is a con and a LIE. A big one, but because it is forced on the gullible and on students, they must accept it. This their modus operandi...and so when faced with sane biological opposition, they can only be subjective rather than objective.


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Message 328 of 391 (809330)
05-17-2017 8:06 PM
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05-17-2017 7:40 PM


Re: "First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews"
Where did humans come from Raz ?

The earliest Homo sapiens fossils found to date are from Ethiopia from about 200,000 years ago.

Technically "Humans" (genus Homo) evolved from Australopithicines, an extinct type of ape very similar to the first species of the Homo clade (ergaster and habilis).

quote:
Human Evolution

Under the current taxonomy (based on genetic rather than behavioral criteria), the term "hominid" refers to members of the biological human family Hominidae: living humans, all human ancestors, the many extinct members of Australopithecus, and our closest primate relatives, the chimpanzee and gorilla.

The chart ... shows the evolutionary chronology inputed to these biological branches. Ardipithecus, the common primate ancestor to paranthropines, australopithecines and humans, went extinct about 4 million years ago.

Human evolution is a puzzle made up of thousands of fossil pieces. The Chart of Human Evolution (below) shows the major pieces of that puzzle arranged in a likely solution.

The tentative connections between species or time of extinction, indicated by a "?", are open to clarification as new DNA and fossil evidence is reviewed in the scientific literature; see comments below the chart.


Our ancestor apes would have evolved from common ancestor population of ancient apes that we share with chimps, an ancestor ape, probably similar to Ardipithicus ramidus.

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Message 329 of 391 (809374)
05-18-2017 8:45 AM
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Davidjay Suspended 48 Hours
Davidjay writes:

First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews

No one said primates came from bats or tree shrews. As I said when I suspended you previously, I will suspend you each time you make significant misstatements of what people have said. This time I'm suspending you for 48 hours.


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Message 330 of 391 (809414)
05-18-2017 11:25 AM
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05-17-2017 7:03 PM


Re: Creationism wins, racism loses
First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews

Well, many have already corrected you that this was never stated. And you have been banned twice for repeating it.

But when (if) you return, please view the following graphic:

Do you see the branches for humans? Do you also see the branches for bats? Do you see ANY line that shows humans deriving from bats?

Of course you don't. Because you are simply a Christian Troll. And if you want to troll, that is your prerogative. But that will simply result in more suspensions.


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