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Message 346 of 391 (809695)
05-20-2017 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 345 by Diomedes
05-20-2017 10:54 AM


Re: Evolution Graph is a joke
If your graph or graphs show a flow chart, then do post the sequence.

Do you not know how to read and retype the ancestral lineage of humans backwards.

Why the evasive tactics. Iyts obvious you dont know ?

Just admit it, its the only way to make progress ? Honesty can lead you to discovery..Denial only leads to mindless more denials.

Who was our ancestors, who were the ancestors of primates...

Why the fear and evasion.


Being told to "Fuck you I can fucking write whatever I want" by CatsEye to me I thought would be against the rules Here( at http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=17167&mpp=1... ...message 145 ) but this board says there are no rules concerning languageHERE, so allow me to repost Cats eyes comments as logically therefore his words can not offend anyone....and can be part of my signature..... because it is not against the rules

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Message 347 of 391 (809699)
05-20-2017 11:26 AM
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05-17-2017 8:06 PM


Re: "First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews"
Raz says through his posted graph that humans came from
( http://www.evcforum.net/Messages.php?control=replynew&m=8... Message 328 )

Humans came from Homininae, which came from Hominidae which evolved from Hominoidae which evolved from Hominoidea....

I win, evolutionist is such a lie and so bogus, to be almsot laughable if it wasnt taken so seriously by the evolutionists.

Its just semantics brethren and non brethren, just word manipulation and spelling...

Read it again and marvel, that evolutionists actually believe our ancestors followed this spelling lineage......

Humans ancestor was Homininae, which came from Hominidae which evolved from Hominoidae which evolved from Hominoidea....

More concisely put in a flow chart for clarity

Human-Homininae-Hominidae-Hominoidae-Hominoidea....

There it is BREAKING NEWS, we humans evolved from Hominoidea's 20 million years ago..... our ancestors are hominoidea's..

I say our ancestors were humans, the same as us.

Evolutionists say different, you choose your ancestor, and see if spelling is the defining factor or whether truth and science and common sense prevails.


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Message 348 of 391 (809704)
05-20-2017 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 347 by Davidjay
05-20-2017 11:26 AM


Re: "First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews"
Davidjay writes:

There it is BREAKING NEWS, we humans evolved from Hominoidea's 20 million years ago..... our ancestors are hominoidea's..

You utter ignorant fool. You are still a Hominoidea whether you wish to admit it or not.

You are as ignorant about science as you are about the Bible and Christianity it seems.


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Message 349 of 391 (809707)
05-20-2017 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 347 by Davidjay
05-20-2017 11:26 AM


Which thread do you want this answered on? Updated
You've posted exactly the same thing on four threads (so far anyway), which is spamming and a troll trait.

Which thread do you want the answer on:

This one (Evolution is a racist doctrine Message 347)
or
A good summary of so called human evolution. Message 127
or
The story of Bones and Dogs and Humans Message 8
or
Debunking the Evolutionary God of 'Selection' Message 228

or do you want me to pick?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Enjoy

Update - See A good summary of so called human evolution. Message 131 for reply

Edited by RAZD, : abe

Edited by RAZD, : updated


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Message 350 of 391 (809960)
05-22-2017 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 347 by Davidjay
05-20-2017 11:26 AM


Re: "First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews"
Davidjay writes:

Raz says through his posted graph that humans came from
( http://www.evcforum.net/Messages.php?control=replynew&m=8... Message 328 )
Humans came from Homininae, which came from Hominidae which evolved from Hominoidae which evolved from Hominoidea....

I win, evolutionist is such a lie and so bogus, to be almsot laughable if it wasnt taken so seriously by the evolutionists.

Its just semantics brethren and non brethren, just word manipulation and spelling...

Read it again and marvel, that evolutionists actually believe our ancestors followed this spelling lineage......

Humans ancestor was Homininae, which came from Hominidae which evolved from Hominoidae which evolved from Hominoidea....

More concisely put in a flow chart for clarity

Human-Homininae-Hominidae-Hominoidae-Hominoidea....

There it is BREAKING NEWS, we humans evolved from Hominoidea's 20 million years ago..... our ancestors are hominoidea's..

I say our ancestors were humans, the same as us.

Evolutionists say different, you choose your ancestor, and see if spelling is the defining factor or whether truth and science and common sense prevails.

If this is the ignorance one has to adopt in order to be a Christian, is it any wonder why so many people don't become Christians?

When Christians distort, misrepresent, and lie about facts, is it any wonder why so many people don't believe them when they talk about the Bible?

Edited by Taq, : No reason given.


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Message 351 of 391 (810115)
05-23-2017 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Admin
05-19-2017 5:34 PM


Re: Creationism wins, racism loses
To my reading it is representing it as a diagram of classification.

Sure, it's a diagram of classification; but phylogenetic classification. The diagram is a phylogram, a family tree, whatever you want to call it. The proposed classification in the tree ('Sundatheria') is a proposed clade. I'm not sure if you're misinterpreting the picture or if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say.

With regards to DavidJay, we can agree on 'challenging to interpret'.


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Message 352 of 391 (810150)
05-24-2017 8:57 AM
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05-23-2017 4:27 PM


Re: Creationism wins, racism loses
Maybe I can state it another way. Here's the diagram:

Davidjay interpreted it as saying that primates are descended from Euarchonta, rather than that they're a member of Euarchonta. Then, not understanding that Scandentia, shown in the diagram as also members of Euarchonta, are tree shrews he read that tree shrews are part of Euarchonta and concluded that primates are descended from tree shrews. That's my interpretation of how Davidjay reached his conclusions.

If I understand what you mean when you explain that it's a diagram of "phylogenetic classification", it says our ancestor species were also members of Euarchonta.

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Message 353 of 391 (810155)
05-24-2017 9:41 AM
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05-24-2017 8:57 AM


Re: Creationism wins, racism loses
I think it's simpler than that.

I think Davidjay simply decided to read it from top to bottom and ignore east to west. But that may be being overly generous.


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Message 354 of 391 (810311)
05-27-2017 6:52 PM
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05-24-2017 9:41 AM


Re: Present your evolutionary 'Flow Chart'
As mentioned, evolution does not know who our ancestors were, or are too embarassed to say so.

Their graphs from their artists, and their linguistic efforts from their paid professors, show that its just semantics... they change a letter here or there and try to group animals or kinds or species or breeds into a confusing mess of names. These clades, or groupings or semantic titles then supposedly show our ancestors.

So I repeat, who are our ancestors.

Have a brave evolutionists say or write what the FLOW CHART of our ancestry came from.

Flow chart, not semantic names of groupings...a flow chart.

Evolution preaches one kind evolved into another kind, so from which kind did we evolve from.... go back as far as you can ... especially to one celled organisms if possible and state your flow chart.

I know its embarassing, but be honest and do it...

OK OK, Ill start and answer from a creationists perspective, logical, rational, scientific and concise.

We came from other humans, the same all the way back to the starting couple.

Now your turn evolutionists and athiests, whats your flow chart ?

.

Gotcha again.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 355 of 391 (810518)
05-30-2017 11:40 AM
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05-27-2017 6:52 PM


Re: Present your evolutionary 'Flow Chart'
Davidjay writes:

Have a brave evolutionists say or write what the FLOW CHART of our ancestry came from.

We already did just that. You continue to ignore it. Here is another one:


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Message 356 of 391 (810522)
05-30-2017 11:53 AM
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05-30-2017 11:40 AM


Re: Present your evolutionary 'Flow Chart'
As mentioned many times, where did primates come from. Who were their ancestors all the way back to single cells or whatever you evolutionists deem strated life.

Your chart, back millions or billions of years is still amongst primates, as they are close enough in looks for you to pretend to extrapolate for the undiscerning that humans came from monkeys, and chimps.

If you note, the question is where did primates come from..what is their ancestry ?

But if you like can you answer this simple evolution question, that evolutionists seem to disagree on.. HEREIN

Did one species change into another species...

I thought evolution teaches this, even as you show your supposed flow chart of primates...

Does one species turn into a new and different species or KIND ?

Thanks very much if you can answer this very easy question... Much appreciated


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 357 of 391 (810523)
05-30-2017 11:55 AM
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05-30-2017 11:53 AM


Re: Present your evolutionary 'Flow Chart'
Davidjay writes:

As mentioned many times, where did primates come from.

As mentioned many times, how is evolution racist?


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Message 358 of 391 (810527)
05-30-2017 12:02 PM
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05-30-2017 11:55 AM


Re: Present your evolutionary 'Flow Chart'
Please study and read all the original posts of mine........ and then answer the question.

Did one species evolve and create a new species and KIND.

In the past, it appears that evolutionists say there has been no branching and no new species, and yet you evolutionists come up with artists depictions of branching, as if chimps or monkeys produced mankind.

Do state whether evolution produces new kinds ?


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 359 of 391 (810533)
05-30-2017 12:08 PM
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05-30-2017 12:02 PM


Davidjay still provides no discussion on even his own topic.
The topic is your assertion that "Evolution is a racist doctrine" and we are will over 300 posts but you have not yet presented any support for your absurd assertions.

Address the topic please!


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Message 360 of 391 (810538)
05-30-2017 12:37 PM
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Re: Present your evolutionary 'Flow Chart'
Davidjay writes:

Please study and read all the original posts of mine........

I did. Nowhere in those posts does it explain how evolution is racist.

So why do you claim that evolution is racist? What is your reasoning?


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