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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Davidjay 
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Message 436 of 1311 (810460)
05-29-2017 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 435 by jar
05-29-2017 7:39 PM


Realm to forehead moment
Palm to forehead moment ......
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They'll probably say I misrepresented my palm and missed my forehead...... even when I wrote the above..

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Dredge
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Message 437 of 1311 (810470)
05-30-2017 12:19 AM
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05-29-2017 12:03 PM


Re: We have agreement....
Ringo writes:
Creationism ... it doesn't explain HOW
Of course not - creation is a miracle; miracles can't be explained.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 438 of 1311 (810473)
05-30-2017 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 416 by CRR
05-28-2017 5:51 PM


Fossilization is quite rare, as evolutionists often tell us when explaining the lack of transitional forms.
Evolutionists never "explain the lack of transitional forms". Don't tell silly lies.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 439 of 1311 (810489)
05-30-2017 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by Dredge
05-30-2017 12:19 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Of course not - creation is a miracle; miracles can't be explained.
Then it cannot be scientific. For the same reason why no supernaturalistic explanation can be scientific. For the same reason why "goddidit" is worse than absolutely useless as a scientific explanation. For the same reason you just gave.
So glad to see that you are finally beginning to understand. Now we can place that silly "creation is scientific" claim in the grave and move on to more productive discussion.

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Davidjay 
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Message 440 of 1311 (810500)
05-30-2017 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 439 by dwise1
05-30-2017 10:32 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Sure creationism can be explained...... because it is by DESIGN, and the design itself proves its creative force and consistency in all things.
Its called the ARCHITECTURE of the UNIVERSE. The Lord, the builder, has common templates that can easily be discerned with a little study
Architecture of the Universe
The Lord was and is the Great Architect who created
all things . . . . including every living thing. This He
did through His consistent templates of common
design. He built all things, with us as His supreme
creation and 'temple'. For we are made in His Image,
and His Handiwork is shown in all the Earth as well
as the whole Universe.
What is Architectural Beauty - Phi
Phi construction of Body Graphics
Golden Section in Human Body
Golden Section 'Phi' Class
Divine Design of Human Face
Face Profile Design
Phi Mysteries
Spiral Pathway
Cydonian Altar
Creation not Evolution
Creation in 24 hours
World History Design
Phi Template of Life
Lord's Phi Spiral of Creation
DNA Phi Spiral Semen
Great Pyramid Prophecy
Who built the Great Pyramid
Harmonic Power of Great Pyramid
Harmony and Chord of Triumph
Lord's Temple, Architecture and Sacred Sex
New Jerusalem is a Crystal Pyramid
Lord's Temple is Human and Sexual
Nakedness on Ramp to Altar
Christos Angle Ramp
Fire on Altar of Sacrifice
Fire of the Lord
Joachin and Boaz Pillars
Male and Female Pillars
Chartres and 2 Prophetic Pillars
Tree of Life - Kaballah
Sex in the Temple
Ark and Tabernacle
ARTICLES
Sacred Geometry
Sacred Geometery and Music
Squared Circle
Naked Man in Squared Circle
Vitruvian Man Graphics Solved
Female comparison to Tabernacle
Vescica Pisces
Pearly Gates of Virgin Temple
Gates are Female Genitalia
Tabernacle - Vescica Pisces
Sex in the Tabernacle
Christian Fish Symbol
Music of the Spheres
Heavenly Body Harmonics
Pythagoras Comma
Tabernacle of the Sun
Magic Square of the Sun
Tabernacle of Light
Light Speed proves Design
Phi Spiral of Planets
ARCHITECTURE
Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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Taq
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Message 441 of 1311 (810503)
05-30-2017 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 407 by Dredge
05-27-2017 12:15 AM


Dredge writes:
Is that what I was trying to do? I was trying to demonstrate that the theory that all life shares a common ancestor is irrelevant in the fight against HIV/AIDS and in the development of the swine vaccine.
And?
The theory that nuclear fusion produces heat in the middle of the Sun is also irrelevant in fighting AIDS/HIV. Does that mean that fusion does not occur in the center of the Sun?
Taq, now is an excellent chance to help deliver Dredge from the darkness of his pathetic ignorance. Please explain how the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor has proven useful in the treatment of HIV/AIDS and in developing swine flu vaccine. This should be a piece'a'cake for someone of your intelligence and learning.
I already showed you in multiple posts how evolution and common ancestry is applied in biology. Why don't you address those posts?

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Message 442 of 1311 (810505)
05-30-2017 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by Dredge
05-30-2017 12:19 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Dredge writes:
Of course not - creation is a miracle; miracles can't be explained.
"Because they know not the forces of nature, and in order that they may have comrades in their ignorance, they suffer not that others should search out anything, and would have us believe like rustics and ask no reason...But we ask in all things a reason must be sought."--William of Conches,

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ringo
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Message 443 of 1311 (810516)
05-30-2017 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 433 by Davidjay
05-29-2017 6:58 PM


Re: We have agreement....
Davidjay writes:
But it involves ultimate power and ultimate wisdom as well.
"Ultimate power" and "ultimate wisdom" don't explain anything.
Davidjay writes:
There I answered another one of your questions.
You still have forty pages of unanswered posts.

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ringo
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Message 444 of 1311 (810517)
05-30-2017 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by Dredge
05-30-2017 12:19 AM


Re: We have agreement....
Dredge writes:
Of course not - creation is a miracle; miracles can't be explained.
Exactly. So why do you even bring up pseudo-scientific arguments against evolution?

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Dredge
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Message 445 of 1311 (810604)
05-31-2017 2:34 AM


The miracle of creation cannot be explained with science, but this doesn't mean it didn't happen or that there is no evidence of creation.
A child doesn't understand how man managed to walk on the moon - does this mean it didn't happen?
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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dwise1
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Message 446 of 1311 (810605)
05-31-2017 3:05 AM
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05-31-2017 2:34 AM


The miracle of creation cannot be explained with science, but this doesn't mean it didn't happen ...
So whoever says that? Other than creationists and those who take creationists at their word?
If you think that science or evolution disproves creation, then you are an absolute idiot. Or merely an extremely delusional fool.
Evolution does not disprove creation. It does disprove your idiotically false ideas about creation and about evolution. But evolution does not disprove creation.
... or that there is no evidence of creation.
So just what is that evidence? I've been hearing that empty claim ever since 1981. Never once did any creationist ever offer that evidence. Never once!
For example, in 1985 a creationist from work, Charles, and I attended a creationist debate that featured both leading creationists, Dr. Henry Morris and Dr. Duane Gish. As we were leaving, Charles was in shock. He kept mumbling, "We have mountains of evidence that will blow the evolutionists away. Why didn't they present it? We have mountains of evidence. Why didn't they present it?" When I saw him again half a decade later, he absolutely hated creationists and wanted nothing to do with them.
What ... fucking ... evidence?
A child doesn't understand how man managed to walk on the moon - does this mean it didn't happen?
Well, if that child thinks that man had to have built a ladder long enough to reach to the moon, then, yes, that did not happen.
But if we remove the shackles of childish misunderstanding, then we can indeed see that, yes, it did happen. And how it happened.
But if you keep yourself shackled by childish misunderstanding, then nothing we try to tell you will make any sense.
Your choice.

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Davidjay 
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Message 447 of 1311 (810634)
05-31-2017 11:38 AM
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05-31-2017 3:05 AM


Pst.... man didnt walk on the moon....... it was a con.... for political purposes
Double Pst...... newest news release is that they accidentally lost the technology to get to the moon, to cover up their original lie, of going there....
lost technology to go to the moon - Google Search
Now back to evolutionists preaching to other evolutionists
You have to have common sense and intelligence from the Lord to see through the cons of this world, see through politics and see through evolution.

Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.
Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,

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dwise1
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Message 448 of 1311 (810719)
06-01-2017 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 447 by Davidjay
05-31-2017 11:38 AM


Please refrain from posting non sequiturs to things that you cannot understand. You only succeed in wasting bandwidth and and revealing your god to be false and your religion injurious to one's mental health.
I was making a specific point to Dredge. Once you have actually understood it, then you could reply to it.

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Dredge
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Message 449 of 1311 (810838)
06-02-2017 2:59 AM
Reply to: Message 441 by Taq
05-30-2017 11:10 AM


Taq writes:
And?
In post #392 RAZD claimed that the theory that humans and apes have a common ancestor "was useful in finding vaccines for HIV". I asked him to explain how - no answer was forthcoming. So maybe you can explain it to me.
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As for your previous posts that you keep mentioning, I've already told you that I'm not qualified to comment on them.

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Dredge
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Message 450 of 1311 (810839)
06-02-2017 3:07 AM
Reply to: Message 392 by RAZD
05-24-2017 8:08 AM


Re: maybe we should cholera a new vaccine ...
RAZD writes:
Just as understanding the genetic similarities with pigs was useful in finding vaccines for ... Swine influenza
Really. Ok, there are similarities. So what? These similarities exist whether one is an evolutionist, a creationist, a Hindu, a Scientologist or a Freemason. In other words, the existence of the genetic similarities between humans and pigs is independent of the theory that humans and chimps have a common ancestor ... and the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor.
Therefore, I suspect that you are mistaken - the theory of common descent was a complete irrelevance in developing swine flu vaccine.

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